Nebraska 2018 Season Thread

[MarqHusker]

Huh?
It says he introduced the option to Ohio. That's just patently false.

I take no offense to these half truths, or no-truths.  People used to say Urb (or Rich Rod) introduced the spread/speed option to college football.  

[Brutus Buckeye]

I take no offense to these half truths, or no-truths.  People used to say Urb (or Rich Rod) introduced the spread/speed option to college football.  

Sigh, yeah. What evs.

I'm just gonna chalk this one up as a lawyer refusing to concede an argument, in spite of an avalanche of evidence the contrary. 

Ohio brought in Solich solely so that they could abandon their west coast/spread passing attack, and install a pure option running attack. 

[ELA]

Sigh, yeah. What evs.

I'm just gonna chalk this one up as a lawyer refusing to concede an argument, in spite of an avalanche of evidence the contrary.

Ohio brought in Solich solely so that they could abandon their west coast/spread passing attack, and install a pure option running attack.

I have no idea what they ran before they got there.  I just know in his own words, he said after that 2010 Troy game he decided to change his offense.  Any further argument, you can bring it up with Frank himself.  He clearly didn't run the same option they ran at Nebraska.  They passed it far more.  Which, again in his own words, is exactly what he said he planned on doing, continuing the run the option, but being able to pass the ball more, because at Ohio you can't simply run it over people when they know it's coming like he could at Nebraska.

[Mdot21]

Home run hires are great until they don't work out.

I recall RichRod being a home run hire. I recall Lane Kiffin being a home run hire. I recall Will Muschamp being a home run hire. I recall Charlie Weis being a home run hire. I recall Charlie Strong being a home run hire.

The list is a long one.

Chip Kelly is not a fit for Nebraska. He just isn't. He needs to be at a place where he can bend the rules a little, have a ton of money to recruit and have a fertile base to recruit from. There will be openings in the PAC-12 and SEC that would suit him much better. Think UCLA and aTm, for starters.

Scott Frost would be a fit, but the fan base (boosters) would need to allow him to take his lumps and build the program in the Nebraska image. That is ground up at this point in time.

None of those were considered home-run hires at the time with the exception of RichRod to Michigan. And Rodriguez was rejected immediately by a huge section of the "Michigan Men"- the insiders, former players, boosters. The media and fans might've said- great hire! Home-run! Look at what he did at West Virginia! But most of the people close to the program- were furious. They hated it. They hated Rich.

Kiffin had been fired from his only head coaching job. Muschamp, Weis, and Strong were all co-ordinators who had never been head coaches before. Those aren't home runs. Think it's pretty unfair to compare Chip Kelly to those guys. Even RichRod- as Rich never made it to two title games (sorry Helfrich- giving a lot of that credit of Mariota and that program to Chip) or got a team to the playoffs in the NFL.

[ELA]

Before or after hang gliding/surfing and in between hits

Yeah, I think apathetic auto-corrected to ape shit

[Brutus Buckeye]

I have no idea what they ran before they got there.  I just know in his own words, he said after that 2010 Troy game he decided to change his offense.  Any further argument, you can bring it up with Frank himself.  He clearly didn't run the same option they ran at Nebraska.  They passed it far more.  Which, again in his own words, is exactly what he said he planned on doing, continuing the run the option, but being able to pass the ball more, because at Ohio you can't simply run it over people when they know it's coming like he could at Nebraska.

Well I've watched a ton of their games both before and after the Solich hire as one of their WRs was in my HS class, but I'm sure I'm just remembering it wrong. My bad. 

[ELA]

You've probably watched even more games than Frank Solich.  You should send him a text to let him know what offense he was running, since he seems to have no clue.

[Brutus Buckeye]

Yeesh dude, I already threw in the towel. No need to spike the football. 

I have no doubt the article that says he introduced the option at Ohio U is 100% factual. Case closed. 

I hereby throw myself on the mercy of the court. 

[MarqHusker]

Sigh, yeah. What evs.

I'm just gonna chalk this one up as a lawyer refusing to concede an argument, in spite of an avalanche of evidence the contrary.

Ohio brought in Solich solely so that they could abandon their west coast/spread passing attack, and install a pure option running attack.

Lawyers gotta stick together.  How else are you supposed to round us all up for annihilation?

[Mdot21]

no one can agree on anything in this thread lol.

can we all at least agree on this- Riley is finished. Don't think they make this move unless they are planning to get a new head football coach.

[MarqHusker]

Since I'm a bit of a pendant myself, I will utter this without any prompting.

Tom Osborne and Frank Solich did not run the triple option at Nebraska.   It is true that for a brief time, TO did run certain triple option packages in the very late 70s, early 80s, but they predominantly featured the power-I, which featured the option, but rarely an actual triple option (fullback, QB keep or pitch. 
Osborne introduced speed option plays in the 90s, and further developed speed option looks from the shotgun during Frazier's time.

The Nebraska run option was run at a much lower rate than his peers which featured the triple option (either the wishbone, or flexbone) during the 70s/80s and 90s.  Osborne utilized the counter-trey, which wasn't run as an option play, and basic sweeps, a lot more than he did the option.  I would posit that Osborne ran his own option offense which featured all of the aforementioned wrinkles.

[ELA]

Since I'm a bit of a pendant myself, I will utter this without any prompting.

Tom Osborne and Frank Solich did not run the triple option at Nebraska.   It is true that for a brief time, TO did run certain triple option packages in the very late 70s, early 80s, but they predominantly featured the power-I, which featured the option, but rarely an actual triple option (fullback, QB keep or pitch.  
Osborne introduced speed option plays in the 90s, and further developed speed option looks from the shotgun during Frazier's time.

The Nebraska run option was run at a much lower rate than his peers which featured the triple option (either the wishbone, or flexbone) during the 70s/80s and 90s.  Osborne utilized the counter-trey, which wasn't run as an option play, and basic sweeps, a lot more than he did the option.  I would posit that Osborne ran his own option offense which featured all of the aforementioned wrinkles.

I didn't follow prior to about 1991, but I don't recall any triple option.  Granted I was limited in how much I could see then, as Nebraska usually was in that 3 :30 ABC regional split, where we'd get the Big Ten game.  But they almost always ran their option out of the power I or shotgun.  Even when they had two backs it seemed like it was always QB or IB/FB, where the other was blocking, rarely that the QB could go to either of the backs.

[Brutus Buckeye]

Since I'm a bit of a pendant myself, I will utter this without any prompting.

Tom Osborne and Frank Solich did not run the triple option at Nebraska.   It is true that for a brief time, TO did run certain triple option packages in the very late 70s, early 80s, but they predominantly featured the power-I, which featured the option, but rarely an actual triple option (fullback, QB keep or pitch.  
Osborne introduced speed option plays in the 90s, and further developed speed option looks from the shotgun during Frazier's time.

The Nebraska run option was run at a much lower rate than his peers which featured the triple option (either the wishbone, or flexbone) during the 70s/80s and 90s.  Osborne utilized the counter-trey, which wasn't run as an option play, and basic sweeps, a lot more than he did the option.  I would posit that Osborne ran his own option offense which featured all of the aforementioned wrinkles.

Ha, so let me get this straight. 
He didn't run a pure option at Nebraska, but after spending his off year studying passing offenses and drawing up "more pass plays than we can imagine" he then "introduced the option at Ohio" where he proceeded to run it for six years before abandoning the whole thing over a bowl loss to Troy? 
Well, I'm glad that we got to the bottom of that. 

[bayareabadger]

I'm a big fan of this board arguing 2005 MAC offensive system. 

I looked back at a full game they posted. Saw 2-3 load option plays in the first few drives. And while Nebraska didn't run a triple, I think it matches in terms of the extremity of the offense and the willingness to trade pure passing game for QB as a weapon in a power setting.