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Brutus Buckeye

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Re: Nebraska 2017 In-Season Thread
« Reply #140 on: September 22, 2017, 08:13:16 PM »
so an average of one option play per drive?

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Re: Nebraska 2017 In-Season Thread
« Reply #141 on: September 22, 2017, 10:26:46 PM »
Since I'm a bit of a pendant myself, I will utter this without any prompting.

Tom Osborne and Frank Solich did not run the triple option at Nebraska.   It is true that for a brief time, TO did run certain triple option packages in the very late 70s, early 80s, but they predominantly featured the power-I, which featured the option, but rarely an actual triple option (fullback, QB keep or pitch.  
Osborne introduced speed option plays in the 90s, and further developed speed option looks from the shotgun during Frazier's time.

The Nebraska run option was run at a much lower rate than his peers which featured the triple option (either the wishbone, or flexbone) during the 70s/80s and 90s.  Osborne utilized the counter-trey, which wasn't run as an option play, and basic sweeps, a lot more than he did the option.  I would posit that Osborne ran his own option offense which featured all of the aforementioned wrinkles.
thank you..  UNL under TO started as a pro set team, went triple and then moved to TO's more famous "option", or as you described it power with some option plays.  Any triple option looks were not actually reads but fakes.  FB dives were designed plays, not "options".  
UNL's next coach will be a Nebraska guy.   period.  best available won't matter.   Just how the pendulum swings.   I'm hoping frost is as good as people think..

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Re: Nebraska 2017 In-Season Thread
« Reply #142 on: September 22, 2017, 10:32:13 PM »
I do think UNL needs to go back to a college offense.   You don't have to run the option with the QB, but some designed run plays are important in the CF game.   jmo

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Re: Nebraska 2017 In-Season Thread
« Reply #143 on: September 22, 2017, 10:42:04 PM »

The helmet schools should be able to make a "home run" hire every single time.  Whether it works out or not remains to be seen.  But if you can't land your guy I question your helmet status.  The fact that Nebraska hired Riley cemented them in that "almost but not quite" tier for me just outside my 7 true helmets.  I can't imagine he'd even be on Michigan or Ohio State or Notre Dame or Texas' list.
Riley should not have been on Eichorst's list - that's why he's gone
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Re: Nebraska 2017 In-Season Thread
« Reply #144 on: September 22, 2017, 10:46:20 PM »
no one can agree on anything in this thread lol.

can we all at least agree on this- Riley is finished. Don't think they make this move unless they are planning to get a new head football coach.
I will agree with this.
I think the ONLY way Riley is coaching in Lincoln next fall is if he somehow manages to win the West
that's not going to happen
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Re: Nebraska 2017 In-Season Thread
« Reply #145 on: September 22, 2017, 10:49:30 PM »
I do think UNL needs to go back to a college offense.   You don't have to run the option with the QB, but some designed run plays are important in the CF game.   jmo
yes, the QB run game puts great pressure on the defense and is a dangerous weapon
but, it can't be at the expense of a reliable passing game
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Re: Nebraska 2017 In-Season Thread
« Reply #146 on: September 22, 2017, 11:17:54 PM »
I can't believe this thread was hijacked by two non-UNL alum, and the subject matter was.....Solich.   Hilarious.

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Re: Nebraska 2017 In-Season Thread
« Reply #147 on: September 22, 2017, 11:44:15 PM »
so an average of one option play per drive?

Far out.
Well, they were short drives as Ohio was getting the hell kicked out of it by someone. 

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Re: Nebraska 2017 In-Season Thread
« Reply #148 on: September 22, 2017, 11:45:46 PM »

yes, the QB run game puts great pressure on the defense and is a dangerous weapon
but, it can't be at the expense of a reliable passing game
Define reliable. 

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Re: Nebraska 2017 In-Season Thread
« Reply #149 on: September 23, 2017, 07:28:11 AM »
I can't believe this thread was hijacked by two non-UNL alum, and the subject matter was.....Solich.   Hilarious.

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Re: Nebraska 2017 In-Season Thread
« Reply #150 on: September 23, 2017, 08:59:34 AM »
Well, they were short drives as Ohio was getting the hell kicked out of it by someone.
At any rate, good call unearthing complete games.
Here are a couple of their near upsets of Ohio State that should finally put this bad boy to rest.

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Here is the game from 1999. Even though their QB was a decent passer, they ran a straight up Army-style triple option on every play but third and long. So that should put to rest any notion that Solich "introduced" the option to Ohio.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLf3trmtPMQ
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Here is the game from 2008. So he had enough time to get a few of his own guys on the roster, but it was still long before the life-altering Troy debacle of 2010. They run a spread passing attack out of the shot gun with only one back in the backfield either blocking for the QB, or taking direct hand offs.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEw69FPYoDU
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Re: Nebraska 2017 In-Season Thread
« Reply #151 on: September 23, 2017, 09:28:28 AM »
Define reliable.
better passing than Taylor Martinez and/or Tommy Armstrong
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Re: Nebraska 2017 In-Season Thread
« Reply #152 on: September 23, 2017, 09:59:25 AM »
better passing than Taylor Martinez and/or Tommy Armstrong
So a passer rating of say 145 or higher? I guess something like OSU has had under Meyer (outside 2014) wouldn't qualify either?

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Re: Nebraska 2017 In-Season Thread
« Reply #153 on: September 23, 2017, 10:08:27 AM »
Nebraska fans everywhere understand why there is no place like Nebraska, but few know Gene Moody, who will sit in East Memorial Stadium seats Saturday for a 400th consecutive home game.

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