header pic

Perhaps the BEST B1G Forum anywhere, here at College Football Fan Site, CFB51!!!

The 'Old' CFN/Scout Crowd- Enjoy Civil discussion, game analytics, in depth player and coaching 'takes' and discussing topics surrounding the game. You can even have your own free board, all you have to do is ask!!!

Anyone is welcomed and encouraged to join our FREE site and to take part in our community- a community with you- the user, the fan, -and the person- will be protected from intrusive actions and with a clean place to interact.


« previous next »
Pages: 1 2 [3]   Go Down
Author

Topic: NCAA rules committee bans the fake slide

 (Read 2545 times)

rolltidefan

  • Global Moderator
  • Starter
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 2219
  • Liked:
Re: NCAA rules committee bans the fake slide
« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2021, 02:28:01 PM »
crazy talk
Logged

Abba

  • Player
  • ****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 995
  • Liked:
Re: NCAA rules committee bans the fake slide
« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2021, 03:03:58 PM »
A rule that really hurt Ohio State against Michigan and I think in other game this year is the fair catch on a kickoff.  Traditionally, you can't do a fair catch if the ball bounces, but kickoffs are a little different.  If you fair catch and the ball bounces, you may then catch it, but are not allowed to advance it.  In addition to that, you have waived the right to advance the ball to the 25, and it instead gets put where you pick it up, which was the 5-yard line in this case.

So fine, we can say the fair catch to move the ball to the 25 is a dumb rule to begin with, but if we must accept that as a rule, then we have to fix this fair catch with a bounce rule.  Either allow that also to be advanced to the 25, or nullify the fair catch at that point once it bounces and allow a return.
Logged

betarhoalphadelta

  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 12291
  • Liked:
Re: NCAA rules committee bans the fake slide
« Reply #30 on: December 10, 2021, 04:58:03 PM »
Quote from: Abba on December 10, 2021, 03:03:58 PM
A rule that really hurt Ohio State against Michigan and I think in other game this year is the fair catch on a kickoff.  Traditionally, you can't do a fair catch if the ball bounces, but kickoffs are a little different.  If you fair catch and the ball bounces, you may then catch it, but are not allowed to advance it.  In addition to that, you have waived the right to advance the ball to the 25, and it instead gets put where you pick it up, which was the 5-yard line in this case.

So fine, we can say the fair catch to move the ball to the 25 is a dumb rule to begin with, but if we must accept that as a rule, then we have to fix this fair catch with a bounce rule.  Either allow that also to be advanced to the 25, or nullify the fair catch at that point once it bounces and allow a return.
Yeah, that happened to Purdue once this season too and I just didn't understand it.

I assume that they don't want someone to catch a kickoff on the bounce after signaling fair catch and get blown up--so if they're not going to let you run with it, they should bring it out to the 25. 
Logged

TyphonInc

  • Starter
  • *****
  • Posts: 1931
  • Easily Amused
  • Liked:
Re: NCAA rules committee bans the fake slide
« Reply #31 on: December 15, 2021, 12:36:05 PM »
...or just don't drop the d@mn ball? or learn to read the kick/wind and be in a place to catch it?
Logged

medinabuckeye1

  • Legend
  • ****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 8930
  • Liked:
Re: NCAA rules committee bans the fake slide
« Reply #32 on: December 15, 2021, 02:32:07 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on December 10, 2021, 10:33:52 AM
bc they don't give a crap about defense or defenders. they make it harder and harder to play defense with all these rules, and make it easier and easier to play offense. and they never enforce them equally. offenses rarely ever get called for stuff, but defenses get called for defensive holding/targeting/pass interference all the time, it's bullshit.
PI is a great example of this.  WR's almost never get called for PI even when they push off fairly obviously.  I do remember one that went against Michigan a few years ago (don't remember the year) but the push was incredibly blatant and obvious.  It doesn't get called on WR's anything like it does on DB's where breathing on the WR can sometimes result in a call.  
Logged

medinabuckeye1

  • Legend
  • ****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 8930
  • Liked:
Re: NCAA rules committee bans the fake slide
« Reply #33 on: December 15, 2021, 02:32:52 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on December 10, 2021, 02:20:32 PM
Another one I hated was the halo rule and, even though that's gone, there's still "allow to catch" rules that are often subjectively called in the same way.

I mean, if only there were some mechanism by which a kick returner that didn't want to get blasted by the opposing team's players, could somehow signal to them that he'd like a fair opportunity to catch the ball.  In return he'd be giving up the chance to return it but if those defenders are already barreling down on him, it sure would be really great for there to be some method-- perhaps a hand signal or something-- which would let them know he'd like a fair chance at catching.  If only such a thing existed, it would be really great.
I thought it was a silly rule, but Gamble at Ohio State was phenomenal at taking advantage of it.  
Logged
Pages: 1 2 [3]   Go Up
« previous next »
 
Support the Site!
Purchase of every item listed here DIRECTLY supports the site.
WeatherPROOF Sign Two Sided

Liberty Model RFID Safe Clock
Liberty RFID Safe Wall Clock