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GopherRock

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Re: Most Common post-WWII non-B1G opponents for each B1G team
« Reply #56 on: June 26, 2018, 11:34:56 PM »
I mis-spoke. I thought that at the time Nebraska joined the league, MN was the most-played OOC series for Nebraska.

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« Reply #57 on: June 26, 2018, 11:37:12 PM »
As for Nebraska-Colorado, my memories of that series in the 90s was that CU would somehow lose to Nebraska in every way that is conceivable to lose a football game, and all the built-up karma were cashed in on T+1 2001.

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« Reply #58 on: June 27, 2018, 07:18:25 AM »
I guess that the Illini-Mizzou rivalry looks a lot better from the Illinois perspective. 

Missouri is in the same boat as Nebraska, having a lot more history with the Big 8 teams than with anyone else.
1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19

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« Reply #59 on: June 27, 2018, 07:26:42 AM »
I could live with that
Not me. UCLA?
No. Let someone else have that.
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« Reply #60 on: June 27, 2018, 07:36:58 AM »
I mis-spoke. I thought that at the time Nebraska joined the league, MN was the most-played OOC series for Nebraska.
I always thought that was the case too.
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Re: Most Common post-WWII non-B1G opponents for each B1G team
« Reply #61 on: June 27, 2018, 08:09:11 AM »
Yes, it isn't even close (as my post indicated).   They've played more times in OOC than Nebraska and Oklahoma St. have played all-time despite being in the same conference for 50 years.

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« Reply #62 on: June 27, 2018, 10:47:14 AM »
I don't think an NCAA FB game would get very much traction in Canadia, but like the outside of the box thinkin'
Well, as @847badgerfan said, Montreal is a great destination.  Ohio State fans are known for travelling REALLY well so Toronto, Montreal, and Vancouver would benefit from the tourism while the NCAA would benefit from the new potential viewers and I *THINK* that the teams playing in Montreal/Toronto/Vancouver could play an extra game that year because I think that the NCAA exempts one game played outside the continental US.  
Assuming that my understanding of the extra game rule is correct, if I were the AD at Ohio State I would try to book these series:
  • Four games with Boston College:  Two home, one away, one neutral in Montreal.  
  • Four games with Syracuse:  Two home, one away, one neutral in Toronto.  
  • Four games with Washington:  Two home, one away, one neutral in Vancouver.  

For reference:
Montreal is about a five hour drive from Boston College and about 11 hours from Columbus.  Thus it would be an easy day's drive for most BC fans/students and a long drive or short flight for most Ohio State fans/students.  

Toronto is about a four hour drive from Syracuse and about seven hours from Columbus.  It is a beautiful trip for either passing through Niagara Falls on the way.  It would be an easy day's drive for most Syracuse students/fans and a longish drive or very short flight for most Ohio State fans/students.  

Vancouver is about a two-and-a-half hour drive from Washington's campus in Seattle and about a 38 hour drive from Columbus.  It would obviously require flying for most Ohio State fans/students but it would be an easy drive for most Washington fans/students.  

If the Buckeyes could get those scheduled (and assuming that my understanding of the extra game rule is correct) then over a six year cycle here is how I would schedule Ohio State's OOC games:

Year One:
  • Marquee Home game
  • Boston College at home
  • Syracuse in the Carrier Dome
Year Two:
  • Marquee Road game
  • Boston College in Montreal
  • Washington at home
  • Ohio MAC school payday game
Year Three:
  • Marquee Home game
  • Washington in Husky Stadium
  • Syracuse at home
Year Four:
  • Marquee Road game
  • Syracuse in Toronto
  • Washington at home
  • Ohio MAC school payday game
Year Five:
  • Marquee Home game
  • Boston College in Boston
  • Syracuse at home
Year Six:
  • Marquee Road game
  • Washington in Vancouver
  • Boston College at home
  • Ohio MAC school payday game

Each year the Buckeyes would have two OOC home games.  In the odd years (1, 3, 5) they would be a Marquee game and BC/Washington/Cuse.  In the even years (2, 4, 6) they would be BC/Washington/Cuse and a payday game.  

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« Reply #63 on: June 27, 2018, 12:13:17 PM »
FWIW:
I really liked MSU's 2-for-1 deal with Boise St.  I liked the idea and the structure.  MSU got home games in 2012 and 2023 while Boise St. got a home game in 2022.  I'd love to see Ohio State look for deals like that with teams like Boise that are high-end non-P5 or with low-end P5 teams.  It would improve the home schedule because Boise would obviously be a much more desirable ticket than Kent/Akron.  If you think of a six year cycle using deals like this you could have:
Year 1:
  • Marquee home game
  • 2-1 road game
  • Ohio MAC payday game
Year 2:
  • Marquee road game
  • 2-1 home game
  • 2-1 home game
Year 3:
  • Marquee home game
  • 2-1 road game
  • Ohio MAC payday game
Year 4:
  • Marquee road game
  • 2-1 home game
  • 2-1 home game
Year 5:
  • Marquee home game
  • 2-1 road game
  • Ohio MAC payday game
Year 6:
  • Marquee road game
  • 2-1 home game
  • 2-1 home game

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Re: Most Common post-WWII non-B1G opponents for each B1G team
« Reply #64 on: June 27, 2018, 12:58:19 PM »
The problem with "high-end" non-P5 is that there are no guarantees.

UW is in a bad one last year and this year, with BYU. When that was scheduled, it looked good. Not so much now.
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Re: Most Common post-WWII non-B1G opponents for each B1G team
« Reply #65 on: June 27, 2018, 02:01:50 PM »
I would dig a series with BYU, even if they weren't very good when the games happened. 
1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19

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Re: Most Common post-WWII non-B1G opponents for each B1G team
« Reply #66 on: June 27, 2018, 02:38:16 PM »
@847badgerfan :
BYU's collapse really torpedoed UW's SoS last year but I would like to not a couple of things:

First, I was advocating that tOSU schedule games like that IN ADDITION TO, not in place of the high-end marquee P5 H&H series.  Wisconsin's other two OOC opponents were Utah State and FAU so BYU was the "marquee" OOC opponent.  If the other two had included Alabama then it wouldn't have been a problem.  Ya know, now that I think about it, why doesn't Wisconsin schedule a H&H with Bama.  That seems pretty simple, no?  

Second, Wisconsin scheduled that BYU game as 1/2 of a H&H
1/2 of a H&H rather than 1/3 of a 2-for-1 deal like MSU's with Boise.  Deals like MSU's with Boise make a lot more sense for a P5 team than a simple H&H with a school that could suck by the time the games happen.  

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« Reply #67 on: June 27, 2018, 03:21:19 PM »
I agree 100% on the top priority.  I'm also fine with the idea of the "payday" game being against an in-state opponent.  
I really like the idea of doing 2 for 1 deals with lower P5's and I would include high-end non P5 teams in that discussion.  Ie, I thought MSU's 2 for 1 deal with Boise made a lot of sense.  I could also go for a H-A-N three game series with a quality opponent.  
I agree that Kentucky or Louisville with some perhaps played in Cincy would be great, but not as an every-year thing.  I'd like that as an occasional or one-off thing.  
I have less than zero interest in anything that approaches treating UC as an equal.  That would be bad for long-term business and I would be adamantly opposed.  
If you really wanted to get creative I'd be interested in some foreign neutral site games (perhaps as part of H-A-N or mixed 2 for 1/HAN deals):
  • Boston College in Montreal
  • Syracuse in Toronto
  • Washington in Vancouver

To clarify, Cincinnati was only if they gained P5 status. And the Cincinnati, Louisville, Kentucky would be a 1 shot (H-A or H-A-N), not an ongoing series.

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« Reply #68 on: June 27, 2018, 03:23:26 PM »
@847badgerfan :
BYU's collapse really torpedoed UW's SoS last year but I would like to not a couple of things:

If the other two had included Alabama then it wouldn't have been a problem.  Ya know, now that I think about it, why doesn't Wisconsin schedule a H&H with Bama.  That seems pretty simple, no?  

Are you trolling Badge, or haven't you read his posts before?  ;)

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Re: Most Common post-WWII non-B1G opponents for each B1G team
« Reply #69 on: June 27, 2018, 03:32:26 PM »
@MarqHusker :
For some reason the "quote" feature isn't working for me right now but yeah, that was 100% trolling.  

 

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