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Topic: Michigan State (0-5, 2-6) at Minnesota (3-2, 5-3) Post Game

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ELA

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Michigan State (0-5, 2-6) at Minnesota (3-2, 5-3) Post Game
« on: October 24, 2023, 10:10:05 AM »
Minnesota absolutely blasted MSU last year, in the game that made everyone realize that 2021, not 202, was the Mel Tucker outlier.

That was the Gophers first win in the series since 2009, and I'd be fairly surprised if it doesn't go to 2 in a row this year.

Minnesota 31, Michigan State 16
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Re: Michigan State (0-4, 2-5) at Minnesota (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2023, 10:51:18 AM »
gophers don't have that much offense

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Re: Michigan State (0-4, 2-5) at Minnesota (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2023, 10:58:52 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on October 24, 2023, 10:51:18 AM
gophers don't have that much offense

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MSU doesn't have that much defense
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Re: Michigan State (0-4, 2-5) at Minnesota (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2023, 03:34:31 PM »
MSU going to be a little short handed with a couple guys not playing
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Re: Michigan State (0-4, 2-5) at Minnesota (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2023, 09:37:22 PM »
So Simeon Barrow entered the portal and withdrew.  Entering at this point made no sense, bc he already played in every game, so he wasn't preserving a redshirt.  He was just preventing injury..

The DL hasn't been the worst unit in the team, but they've certainly been the most disappointing considering that was probably the position group I felt best about
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Re: Michigan State (0-4, 2-5) at Minnesota (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2023, 08:37:10 AM »
Why would you do that to your teammates? That says a lot about character, to me.
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Re: Michigan State (0-4, 2-5) at Minnesota (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2023, 10:45:53 AM »
He was just preventing injury..
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Re: Michigan State (0-4, 2-5) at Minnesota (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2023, 11:23:30 AM »
Then don't start the season.
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Re: Michigan State (0-4, 2-5) at Minnesota (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2023, 12:20:29 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on October 27, 2023, 08:37:10 AM
Why would you do that to your teammates? That says a lot about character, to me.
i agree with you 

I do think character is built through life lessons and the kid will grow from this and be better in life 

but I agree how do you look at your teammates and say yesterday I gave up but today i am back
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Re: Michigan State (0-4, 2-5) at Minnesota (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2023, 12:23:17 PM »
Quote from: Benthere2 on October 27, 2023, 12:20:29 PM
i agree with you

I do think character is built through life lessons and the kid will grow from this and be better in life

but I agree how do you look at your teammates and say yesterday I gave up but today i am back
Exactly. I'd have a hard time with trust on that one.
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Re: Michigan State (0-4, 2-5) at Minnesota (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2023, 01:00:36 PM »
https://www.lansingstatejournal.com/story/sports/columnists/graham-couch/2023/10/27/msu-football-why-simeon-barrow-returned-to-the-spartans/71338887007/

Simeon Barrow had been an important person on Michigan State’s football team. A staple in the middle of the defensive line. A team captain, elected by his teammates. A presence.

He didn’t feel like it early Thursday morning when he walked into interim head coach Harlon Barnett’s office, hoping to rejoin the team after a couple days in the transfer portal.

“I'm not going to lie to you, I was nervous,” Barrow said Thursday evening, just after he officially pulled his name out of the portal. “I didn't know how my teammates were going to react. I didn't know at all.”

Barrow’s change of heart came at the end of several weeks grappling with a decision about his future. He’s not alone having those thoughts among MSU’s football players. That so few have left the program is actually remarkable. Just four of them over the last month now that Barrow is back.

Once Mel Tucker was officially fired on Sept. 27 and the transfer portal opened to MSU’s players for 30 days, I figured we’d see a sizable exodus. We might still at season’s end, when the transfer portal reopens. But for all that’s gone wrong for the Spartans on the field and around the program this fall, that they’ve largely stayed in the fight and hung together is impressive, a testament to Barnett and the rest of the remaining staff and to a group of players that are enduring a situation that’s wholly unfair.

Leaving his teammates weighed on Barrow, whose introspection included a “deep talk” with MSU men's basketball coach Tom Izzo on Wednesday.

On Thursday morning, Barnett told Barrow he’d welcome him back, provided his teammates were OK with it. Barnett stood in front of the morning team meeting and asked for objections. And then asked again.

To Barrow’s relief, there were none. He had made a decision many of them had likely contemplated and he ultimately decided he’d rather be with them right now. He was back on the practice field later Thursday morning and is slated to play Saturday at Minnesota.

“I was by myself in the transfer portal for two days just thinking about the guys, thinking about football, thinking about my teammates and just hearing from my teammates that live with me,” Barrow, a redshirt-junior from Grovetown, Georgia, said Thursday. “I just felt like I can't leave like that. I've gotta go back and I've gotta help. At the end of the day, I still believe in Michigan State football. I feel like we can still win a bowl game. I just feel I can't leave leave it like that.”

Barnett, whose strength and weakness over the last six weeks has perhaps been his empathy for the players, didn’t take long to make his own decision, though Barrow will no longer be a team captain.

“My initial reaction is ‘No’, because you feel like, ‘Man, you left the team, you quit the team as a captain and all that,’ ” Barnett said. But with all of this going on, we're in a different world. That's old-school to say, ‘You're never coming back.' Because this young man has been through it.”

That includes this week, when Barrow received calls from more than 40 coaching staffs around college football, some of them with flattering NIL promises. Barrow said money was a factor, though he was never a part of MSU's SD4L NIL collective, so he wasn’t impacted by their decision to suspend most of their contracts with MSU’s players four weeks ago.

“I'm just thinking about in the long run, with my future as a football player,” Barrow said of his decision to enter the portal. “I felt like my best way was just to keep myself safe this year. Less snaps, stay away from injuries and focus on what I’ve got next year, so I can make it to the league (NFL). That’s what my thought process was.”

Barrow told Barnett on the Monday before the Rutgers game that he was considering leaving, that he’d at least play the next two games. Then, this week, on the heels of a 49-0 loss to Michigan and just before the midseason portal door closed, he thought he should go. It was nothing against the people in the building — as a recruit, he’d originally committed to Mark Dantonio in August of 2019. Just the situation.

His teammate’s response to his return …

“They were happy. They were real freakin' happy,” Barrow said. “There was a lot of energy in the room, a lot of emotions and happy excitement. Everybody was just happy.”

Barrow’s three roommates, teammates Dallas Fincher, Avery Dunn and Sebastian Brown, told Barrow there was a difference between the energy at practice from Monday to Thursday.

“It’s a crazy, messed up moment. Everybody is really feeling it,” Barrow said. “(Leaving the team), it kind of messed it up a little bit more. But coming back, it kind of brought the energy back. Everybody was happy. Everybody's heads (are) up. And everybody is ready to dominate on Saturday.”
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Re: Michigan State (0-4, 2-5) at Minnesota (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2023, 01:09:25 PM »
That sounds like a pretty damn good outcome.

And I think Izzo should retire from MSU hoops and coach MSU football. I bet he'd rock that gig.
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Re: Michigan State (0-4, 2-5) at Minnesota (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2023, 03:05:18 PM »
Portal season has begun early for Nebraska as the Huskers made an offer to a Michigan State transfer Wednesday.

Former Spartans offensive lineman Keyshawn Blackstock announced an NU tender on social media a day after officially leaving his previous team. The 6-foot-5, 315-pounder has seen four games and 74 offensive snaps this season as a backup left tackle but none since coach Mel Tucker was fired Sept. 27. Blackstock can preserve his redshirt and would have two seasons to play two.

The native of Covington (Georgia) Newton was a three-star prep prospect and four-star junior-college recruit out of Coffeyville C.C. last year. Then rated a top-10 national juco player, Blackstock fielded 40-plus offers with finalists including Oregon, Tennessee, USC and Oklahoma.



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any thoughts on this guy?
Obviously wasn't good enough to start
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Re: Michigan State (0-4, 2-5) at Minnesota (2-2, 4-3) Game Week
« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2023, 03:11:08 PM »
I think he was hurt early.  I mean his offers both times he went into the portal suggest he's pretty good.  I don't recall him doing much good or bad
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