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Brutus Buckeye

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Re: Likely expansion targets for the B1G
« Reply #266 on: August 04, 2021, 12:11:10 PM »
Quote from: CWSooner on August 04, 2021, 12:01:12 PM
Missouri was a slave state that remained in the Union.
Sort of.
But not if you asked Jesse and Frank James.
Kentucky was another slave state that remained in the Union.  So was Maryland.  So was West Virginia, although it got there by a different path.

And the split in Arizona indicates that the SEC gets AAU-member U of A, while the B1G gets non-AAU and about-to-be-sanctioned ASU.


Maryland was a tough pill for me to swallow because it was the first time that the Big Ten extended itself south of the Mason Dixon line. But they were all in on the Union, unlike Kentucky and Missouri who had one foot in and one foot out, so it's all good. West Virginia became a state in order to remain in the Union, so they are also fine. I suppose I could maybe accept Missouri and Kentucky if it came to that, but I hope that it doesn't come to that. If it's Virginia and UNC, I'm out. Might as well just join the SEC at that point, since geography no longer matters. 
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Re: Likely expansion targets for the B1G
« Reply #267 on: August 04, 2021, 12:21:58 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on August 04, 2021, 12:11:10 PM

Maryland was a tough pill for me to swallow because it was the first time that the Big Ten extended itself south of the Mason Dixon line. But they were all in on the Union, unlike Kentucky and Missouri who had one foot in and one foot out, so it's all good. West Virginia became a state in order to remain in the Union, so they are also fine. I suppose I could maybe accept Missouri and Kentucky if it came to that, but I hope that it doesn't come to that. If it's Virginia and UNC, I'm out. Might as well just join the SEC at that point, since geography no longer matters.
Yeah, it's a tough call determining which state was more which way.
For example, Maryland's slaveholders were mostly in the east, and Baltimore was a particular hub of pro-slavery sentiment.  Some state regiments from northern states had to fight their way through pro-slavery street mobs in Baltimore to get to Washington DC, with fatalities on both sides.  In the western part of Maryland, not so much.  When Lee invaded Maryland in 1862, he sounded a call for all good slavery supporters to join the Army of Northern Virginia.  He didn't get much logistical support, and very few young Marylanders joined his army.
Maryland did field some Confederate regiments, though.
There would seem to be two bright lines: free state vs. slave state; Union vs. Confederate.
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Re: Likely expansion targets for the B1G
« Reply #268 on: August 04, 2021, 12:26:52 PM »
The mountainous areas tended to be more pro-Union in every state, including Georgia, and east Tennessee.  In my book, East Tennessee and Kentucky combine with some western NC counties to form the state of Franklin which remains in the Union.  Maryland secedes but stays independent with their new capital in DC.

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Re: Likely expansion targets for the B1G
« Reply #269 on: August 04, 2021, 12:32:32 PM »
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« Reply #270 on: August 04, 2021, 12:33:29 PM »
^^^^^^^^

(wait for it... :) )
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Re: Likely expansion targets for the B1G
« Reply #271 on: August 04, 2021, 12:41:50 PM »
Don't get too excited.  Look at "Bruce Feldman's" twitter handle...

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Re: Likely expansion targets for the B1G
« Reply #272 on: August 04, 2021, 12:44:01 PM »
The Big should jump all over this
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Re: Likely expansion targets for the B1G
« Reply #273 on: August 04, 2021, 01:00:52 PM »
The Big Ten should just add the rest of the Big12 and rename the conference the Big Whatever.
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« Reply #274 on: August 04, 2021, 01:06:58 PM »
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Re: Likely expansion targets for the B1G
« Reply #275 on: August 04, 2021, 01:07:14 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on August 04, 2021, 12:33:29 PM
^^^^^^^^

(wait for it... :) )
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« Reply #276 on: August 04, 2021, 01:08:47 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on August 04, 2021, 01:07:14 PM
"You, yes you, I'm still waiting".
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Re: Likely expansion targets for the B1G
« Reply #277 on: August 04, 2021, 04:56:00 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 04, 2021, 01:06:58 PM

Exactly what I got.
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« Reply #278 on: August 04, 2021, 05:06:55 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on August 04, 2021, 01:08:47 PM
@BruceFeldmanCF8


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Re: Likely expansion targets for the B1G
« Reply #279 on: August 04, 2021, 07:13:05 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on August 04, 2021, 12:11:10 PM

Maryland was a tough pill for me to swallow because it was the first time that the Big Ten extended itself south of the Mason Dixon line. But they were all in on the Union, unlike Kentucky and Missouri who had one foot in and one foot out, so it's all good. West Virginia became a state in order to remain in the Union, so they are also fine. I suppose I could maybe accept Missouri and Kentucky if it came to that, but I hope that it doesn't come to that. If it's Virginia and UNC, I'm out. Might as well just join the SEC at that point, since geography no longer matters.
Wikipedia says Missouri contributed 100,000 soldiers to the Union, and 40,000 to the Confederacy. 
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