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betarhoalphadelta

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Re: Likely expansion targets for the B1G
« Reply #42 on: July 26, 2021, 06:52:06 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on July 26, 2021, 06:25:47 PM
Probably even less of an impact now, where the top 6 Conference Champions make the playoffs.

A revamped Big 12 would be solidly entrenched as the 5th best Conference, with a large gap between them and the 4th place Conference, and a larger gap between them and the 6th place Conference.
Agreed... But how big of a drop will it be? What happens to TV rights (and whether your game is televised)? What happens when recruits aren't going to be in big-game matchups against Texas and OU every year and their game will only be televised on the Ocho?

The B12 GoR is due for renegotiation as it expires in 2025, and Texas/OU have already said they don't plan to negotiate their rights in that renegotiation. B12 TV rights are about to take a serious market tumble. How excited are recruits going to be about your facilities when you're falling behind in that arms race?

Take Texas, OU, and for the sake of argument Kansas out of the B12.

Now you've got ISU, KSU, OkSU, TTU, Baylor, TCU, and WVU (who may be ripe for the picking in their own sense). Add some G5 teams like Houston and Memphis, SMU, maybe Tulsa or Tulane? 

You don't think that regional recruits will be salivating for an Iowa or Kansas or Colorado or Arizona/ASU offer over those schools? 

You don't think it's plausible that 15 years down the road, Iowa and Kansas' national recruiting rankings are 5-10 spots higher, while ISU and KSU's are 5-10 spots lower?

I realize of course that 15 years is a lifetime in college sports. Who knows--we could have three more realignments 15 years from now...

But I can't imagine that Iowa and Kansas wouldn't benefit from ISU and KSU being in a watered-down B12 while they were in the B1G. 
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Re: Likely expansion targets for the B1G
« Reply #43 on: July 26, 2021, 06:56:37 PM »
arms race?  What about coaches salaries if the money really isn't there?
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Re: Likely expansion targets for the B1G
« Reply #44 on: July 26, 2021, 07:02:19 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on July 26, 2021, 06:56:37 PM
arms race?  What about coaches salaries if the money really isn't there?
Good point, but that might take a while to reset too... 

If there's one thing that Americans are good at, it's spending money we don't have lol...

Just jack up tuition (via mandatory "student fee" that doesn't show up in reported tuition numbers) and you can pay a coach whatever you need...
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Re: Likely expansion targets for the B1G
« Reply #45 on: July 26, 2021, 07:35:01 PM »
Ohio St looks bored, winning the conference every year.  Who is the B1G going to replace them with when the SEC takes them?
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Re: Likely expansion targets for the B1G
« Reply #46 on: July 26, 2021, 07:42:11 PM »
$80M per school, per year.  B1G needs to add 2 helmet schools minimum. Kansas and Iowa State simply aren't options here.


https://twitter.com/ByBerkowitz/status/1419790400240459776?s=19
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« Reply #47 on: July 26, 2021, 07:43:52 PM »
You could buy the state of Mississippi for $1.3 billion, damn!
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Re: Likely expansion targets for the B1G
« Reply #48 on: July 26, 2021, 07:58:03 PM »
Quote from: TamrielsKeeper on July 26, 2021, 07:42:11 PM
$80M per school, per year.  B1G needs to add 2 helmet schools minimum. Kansas and Iowa State simply aren't options here.


https://twitter.com/ByBerkowitz/status/1419790400240459776?s=19
notre dame and USC are the only 2 helmets left
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Re: Likely expansion targets for the B1G
« Reply #49 on: July 26, 2021, 08:26:06 PM »
I'm not a fan of Texas and OU to the SEC. The balance of power shifts too much. If those helmets went west and ND joined the ACC then there would have been 4 stable strong conferences. And probably a break from the P5 and G5.

With this move you have one super conference. 
then a big drop off...
the B1G and ACC as second and third
then a big drop off ...
Pac and a reimaged B12...
another big drop off and the G5 bottom feeders.

I'm so annoyed with how the SEC out played and out smarted Kevin Warren. "Let's go to a 12 team playoff, look shining dollar signs" What the SEC meant to say is look there will be 6 SEC teams in the playoff and 6 of you other chumps can come and lose to us first round. 

"Wait, does this mean 9-3 Michigan isn't going to the playoffs anymore?" Kevin Warren Probably 

The SEC has been working for months (if not years) to get two of the biggest brands out there. Kevin Warren responds with, "I haven't even consider the possibility of expansion."

Fire this chump. NOW! I'd also back a bid for King Barry to take over.

For Expansion; my number one target is still one of the Virginia Schools (I pefer Tech, but both are decent additions. However they are locked up for another decade.

My number 2; does anyone think there is a way to use the Big Ten Academic Consortium to lure Missouri from the SEC? Maybe I'm listening to the wrong people but everyone I hear from the SEC is saying if they get Texas and OU can they give back Missouri? That would leave 3 of the big conferences with 15, and shift the balance of power by 8 mullion people to the North. 
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« Reply #50 on: July 26, 2021, 08:39:13 PM »
perhaps Kansas is part of the discussion to help lure Mizzou?
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« Reply #51 on: July 26, 2021, 08:57:00 PM »
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Re: Likely expansion targets for the B1G
« Reply #52 on: July 26, 2021, 09:07:53 PM »
Why's everyone so impressed with Mizzou? If you want to poach an SEC team, think big. 

All poaching Mizzou does is open up a spot in the SEC for Clemson, Florida State, Miami, Notre Dame or USC. 

Come on now. Are you people even trying? 
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Re: Likely expansion targets for the B1G
« Reply #53 on: July 26, 2021, 09:09:35 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on July 26, 2021, 07:43:52 PM
You could buy the state of Mississippi for $1.3 billion, damn!
And pick up Arkansas with the change.
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Re: Likely expansion targets for the B1G
« Reply #54 on: July 26, 2021, 09:15:41 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on July 26, 2021, 09:07:53 PM
Why's everyone so impressed with Mizzou? If you want to poach an SEC team, think big.

All poaching Mizzou does is open up a spot in the SEC for Clemson, Florida State, Miami, Notre Dame or USC.

Come on now. Are you people even trying?
no one is impressed with Mizzou
it's just that Mizzou is about as good as the B1G can expect to poach from the SEC
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Re: Likely expansion targets for the B1G
« Reply #55 on: July 26, 2021, 09:15:50 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on July 26, 2021, 09:07:53 PM
Why's everyone so impressed with Mizzou? If you want to poach an SEC team, think big.

All poaching Mizzou does is open up a spot in the SEC for Clemson, Florida State, Miami, Notre Dame or USC.

Come on now. Are you people even trying?
For every migration, there are push factors and pull factors.
What factors would push a current SEC team out of the SEC?
I'm not saying that there aren't any, but I don't know what they would be.
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