There are veterans and groups of veterans with training and experience aplenty that could stand down just about any agency IF that agency plays it between the lines.
Feds and states know this. Its a very vivid and discussed fear of theirs. Most vets who are also part of those feds and states and that I know find this funny. Those profiled types are imagined as foes, when if this nation was ever infiltrated those vets would be massive assets----- unless those infiltrators WERE the feds... then, they'd have a problem.
They "make us" and "used us for their games" and then they "fear us" when we're past that obligation, and seek means to neutralize us.
That's hilarious.
If you think well armed citizens can't stand against feds or states, you need to reevaluate your reasoning. The freakin taliban stood against the best trained and equipped military with loads and loads of gadgets with little more than tribal ingenuity... the Iraqi and insurgents of university aged, mostly, fighters laid a hurting on the same military- far more than anyone would have suspected, and did so with little if any training and less equipment.
Taking ground when you don't plan on keeping it or extracting it's resources is easy.... taking it without massive infrastructural damage and retaining it? Not so easy.
Deer hunters from Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, Indiana and west Virginia alone amd on opening day represent the largest standing army in the world... add the south and Texas in that, it's three times the largest standing army. If together, nobody is ever taking this nation over from outside amd leaving anything worth having when they're done and if they're successful...
That isn't accidental; that's by design... design of our forefathers before it became corrupt to the core and they began to fear us. The only reason they'd want us disarmed is if they plan on doing something we'd shoot them for. Its that simple. Furthermore and drawn from actual data, a well armed group is highly unlikely to be attacked by criminals. When is the last time a police bar was robbed? Why aren't drug houses raided by other criminals all the time? Has anyone ever busted into a gun club amd tried to hold them up or shoot them? ..... I freakin wonder why.
Kids. That's the only reason a weapon should be secured. And I'm all for having both state sponsored gun handling classes for kids as well as taking a kid at a young young age out with a BB gun and having them kill a bird or a rabbit just so they realize, harshly, how something can be destroyed in a moment and what that feels like.