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I do dislike the term "gun violence" because guns are not violent alone. My gun isn't gonna get up and shoot me.

It's violence. Knives. Bats. SUV's. Pressure cookers. Cast iron pans. Etc. All deadly weapons.

wow.. if you ever meet my wife in person, you should mention that. An entire summer when we had our first child, we had this problem. My mom is in love with cardinals and so was my grandma so I felt awful if i were to shoot it. We tried everything. Reflectors, put foil on the windows, wind chimes, pie tins, you name it. The thing started pounding on the windows at 4 am every day, which is awful when you already aren't sleeping from a newborn.

The only thing that worked months later, was putting up a window bird feeder. It then ironically stopped knocking on the window. If only we tried that first.

I put the screens back up on the lower windows and then that stick-on cling window frost. Problem solved.

Before that I tried everything, including scary pictures like this.



Didn't help.

I think about Waukesha and Boston.

Some people are just killers.

It's true. We can't rid the world of violence, even if we rid the world of people. It turns out animals are violent, too. Heck, storms can be violent.

I'm a cyclist. I ride my bike to work 3-4 times a week, and worry everyday about the crazy things I see people do in cars. The carelessness and recklessness is scary. But firearms--not motor vehicles--are the #1 killer of teens and children in the U.S. That's stunning, particularly given how ubiquitous traveling in cars is (and how bad so many drivers are).

Lingering for a moment on the difference between gun violence and violence committed with other tools. The purpose firearms exist is to kill things. Literally. In fact, there aren't really other uses for them. One could suggest target shooting, but what is the purpose of target shooting? To show prowess with the firearm, whose purpose is to kill (animals or humans).

That's not true for anything else on your list. Could we have a katana violence problem? Yes, I suppose so, but somehow we don't. (To be clear, someone was killed in my county with a katana within the last couple of years, it was really gruesome, happened on a public street in broad daylight. WTF.) Same for a bow and arrow violence problem. I'm sure there are bow and arrow murders committed, but it's not exactly an epedemic.

So yes, gun violence is different.

Kinda like the purpose behind nuclear weapons is to deter nuclear war? Sure.

 The carelessness and recklessness is scary. But firearms--not motor vehicles--are the #1 killer of teens and children in the U.S. 7

That's a CDC statistic and complete BS. Their terminology is "fire-arm related" death. If you believe their data after their bs usage of data during Covid, I don't know what to tell you.. but yeah, the guy that died in a plane crash definitely died of Covid. And I'm sure his 14 year old in the back of the plane was fire-arm related since his dad owned a 9mm. 

When you actually dig into the gun deaths in our country with teens, it is related to two specific areas. Suicide and gang violent deaths. And neither are those are the fault of the gun and far more specifically related to family and drug issues and you can throw in economic issues that correlate to the south america and Mexico areas that have violence due to economic reasons. Most interesting, is the deaths that don't fall under suicide are most common in areas with most restrictive gun laws.

Now you're just being silly. A frying pan doesn't cook without you using it to cook, but it is designed to cook.

So you own your firearm for protection. Why? Because it kills. That's what makes it the deterrent that you're using it for.

It was designed specifically for that purpose: to eject bits of metal at a high velocity so that they can penetrate a mammal. It has been refined over centuries to do that better and better: ejecting the metal more accurately, faster, more refined for killing one thing versus another, etc. Those are the design criteria: how to make it a more effective killing tool.

As a result, have other tools been designed using similar technology? Yes, flare guns, for instance. Nail guns for another. But the gun you pull on Mike Tyson? That is designed to kill.

Yes, it sure is designed to kill.  And quite the deterrent to unwanted violence, as I illustrated above.  The textbook definition of using a gun in "self defense".

Wonder why cops carry them?  To kill people?  LOL

Yes, it sure is designed to kill.  

See we agree. Was that so hard?