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C'est la vie on whatever decision they make about Urban today.

What seems most important though is that the B.O.T and President get funding for a quick paint job in the football offices. A couple buckets of white paint should do. 

All I said was that the texts corroborate the events. The ones from Courtney's mom establish that the mom believed Zach was a serial abuser. Full stop. The ones from Courtney are consistent with both she believing Zach is a serial abuser and he is essentially agreeing (certainly not denying). Full stop. Of course, none of these parties knew their texts would later become evidence. But I didn't call them proof. I called them corroborative.
They are a piece of documentation consistent with all the most negative narratives about Zach.
You are trying surprisingly hard to make it seem Zach Smith was not a good guy and not an awful guy but a juuuuust good enough guy to definitely deserve his job. When talking with people outside of Ohio (and, for obvious reasons, let's exclude Michigan), that's going to be lonely for you.

Courtney’s mom’s most recent  take, given her now full knowledge of the entire situation is not corroborating her daughters story. Stop 
 Your take on my position is exactly the opposite of correct. I have acknowledged that Zach is a scumbag. The real question is related to his boss, how much he knew, what he did about what he knew, and what is realistic to expect for him to control as far as the environment. 

Courtney’s mom’s most recent  take, given her now full knowledge of the entire situation is not corroborating her daughters story. Stop
 Your take on my position is exactly the opposite of correct. I have acknowledged that Zach is a scumbag. The real question is related to his boss, how much he knew, what he did about what he knew, and what is realistic to expect for him to control as far as the environment.

Her mom and her daughter are now estranged. We should doubt her recent (since the estrangement) ad libbed takes more than her pre-estrangement) and documented ones. And that's beside the fact that it's a documented conversation with Zach ... that reads in the particularly damning way it does.
You say Zach is a scumbag. But you also say he tooootally deserved his job from 2012 until precisely the end of July 2018. That is equivalent to saying "He's not a good guy, he's not total garbage, he had been juuuuust good enough to deserve his job." 
You think he definitely deserved the job in 2012 (despite allegations that he not only was a documented serial abuser, but also a very bad football coach). You think he definitely deserved the job in 2015, despite those whirlwind allegations. You also seem to think he deserved his job despite flopping his penis about in the White House and having an inappropriate relationship with an OSU staffer who was ultimately relocated. You think he deserved to get this job and then keep it for a very long time.
Also, the real questions for Meyer aren't just about what he knew. He also has to answer for the environment he built, where - even if he didn't know - Zach was able to thrive out in the open and everyone else (ask Ramzy) knew.

I don't know about that.  My read is that they are estranged because of her takes on the supposed abuse.

I don't know their family. I doubt most people do. But I find that inconsistent with normal human goings-on. You're saying that a mother who is documented expressing the belief that her daughter's husband is assaulting her daughter ... stopped talking to her daughter because her daughter believed her husband was assaulting her.

I am not betting it's wacky. I am betting it's untrue. This could be a bad bet. But it doesn't feel like a bad bet.

I don't know about that.  My read is that they are estranged because of her takes on the supposed abuse.

Supposedly they are estranged because of her daughters alcohol problems and emotional outbursts.  

Urban is on the rack primarily for the environment he built, one where everyone else knew about these rumors of serial assault, the alcoholism, the lewdness, and - whether Urban was aware of those rumors or not - Zach was safe to hide and thrive.

Yeah, but some of these problems are not like the others.  It's not illegal or even immoral to be an alcoholic or take selfies.  The only issue that, to me, is of any importance is about the abuse.  I have not been a fan of how all of these issues get rolled into one, as if they are all of equal importance.  They are not.