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ELA

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Iowa All-Decade Team - Receiver #2
« on: September 19, 2020, 10:19:55 AM »

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Re: Iowa All-Decade Team - Receiver #2
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2020, 10:42:29 AM »
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Re: Iowa All-Decade Team - Receiver #2
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2020, 04:50:17 PM »
Should probably at least consider Kevontae Martin-Manley.  While he was not the most talented wide receiver, he is Iowa’s all-time leader in receptions and played solely in this decade.  I would definitely consider him over McCarron. Tevaun Smith and ISM are both more gifted receivers than Martin-Manley, if people wanted to go on talent over career production.


Iowa Receivers in 2010s (except McNutt):
Martin-Manley   174-1799-12
Matt Vandeburg 134-1686-10
Tevaun Smith    102-1500-7
Keenan Davis    112-1470-7
Smith-Marsette   85-1270-10
Riley McCarron    50-584-5
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Re: Iowa All-Decade Team - Receiver #2
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2020, 04:58:54 PM »
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Re: Iowa All-Decade Team - Receiver #2
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2020, 05:10:06 PM »
I would not argue with someone for picking Tevaun Smith, and I am not saying it should be KMM.  I am just saying that KMM should have been considered, especially if McCarron is on the list.
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Re: Iowa All-Decade Team - Receiver #2
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2020, 06:18:20 PM »
Iowa throws the ball to people that aren't TEs? 
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Re: Iowa All-Decade Team - Receiver #2
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2020, 11:24:39 PM »
It is an absolute joke that KMM was not an.option on this list.  There should be revote.

I can barely remember who Riley McCarren is or when he played.
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ELA

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Re: Iowa All-Decade Team - Receiver #2
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2020, 08:30:00 AM »
Quote from: LittlePig on September 19, 2020, 11:24:39 PM
It is an absolute joke that KMM was not an.option on this list.  There should be revote.

I can barely remember who Riley McCarren is or when he played.
He was never All-Big Ten, not even HM.  All of these guys were.  That's the standard.
Also, it's tied
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Re: Iowa All-Decade Team - Receiver #2
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2020, 07:24:22 PM »
That just tells me that it was ridiculous that he never made honorable mention All-Big Ten.  If that is the standard, then I can accept it as the reason he was left off.  In this particular case, I think the standard misses the mark for an all-decade team, as it values individual seasons over careers.  Not many cases where an individual who is a school’s career all-time leader in an offensive category cannot get into an all-decade vote.
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Re: Iowa All-Decade Team - Receiver #2
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2020, 07:34:15 PM »
Quote from: Hawkeye0111 on September 21, 2020, 07:24:22 PM
That just tells me that it was ridiculous that he never made honorable mention All-Big Ten.  If that is the standard, then I can accept it as the reason he was left off.  In this particular case, I think the standard misses the mark for an all-decade team, as it values individual seasons over careers.  Not many cases where an individual who is a school’s career all-time leader in an offensive category cannot get into an all-decade vote.
I was wondering why a lot of Purdue players just seemed to show up on ELA's list and I never saw threads to vote... I'm guessing that not enough players from Purdue ever even got onto All-B1G lists at certain positions, even HM, to generate a vote. 

It's difficult because you can have a player from a "weaker" school who may be one of the better players for his team that decade, but never reach HM, because there are at least 4 better players at the position that year. Even a position like Safety, where you have 2 on the field for each team, the top 8 players at the position can only [at max] comprise 8 teams. So even if a player should be one of the better players for his team that decade, if he's great at Indiana but not top 8 at his position in any year, he doesn't qualify. 

At the same time you're trying to create an all-decade team for Ohio State who has 10+ players per every position on its list because their recruits were better than anyone else's all decade. 
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Re: Iowa All-Decade Team - Receiver #2
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2020, 09:26:05 PM »
I'm including HM guys
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Re: Iowa All-Decade Team - Receiver #2
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2020, 10:52:51 PM »
Quote from: ELA on September 21, 2020, 09:26:05 PM
I'm including HM guys
I know. For non-helmet teams, though, that still thins the field.

But I'm not complaining. Nobody cares about the all-decade team for non-helmets anyway. 
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Re: Iowa All-Decade Team - Receiver #2
« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2020, 11:17:45 PM »
KMMs best year was his sophomore year, when he was 14th in the Big Ten in receiving yards, and had 2 touchdowns.

He was 25th, 25th and 20th in his other three years.

I had to set some sort of criteria, and there are obvious holes.  But eh, this isn't the hill I'd die on.
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