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Topic: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame

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Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
« Reply #70 on: November 26, 2023, 10:47:17 AM »
Rhule is an excellent coach.  I’d give him a four years.
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Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
« Reply #71 on: November 26, 2023, 10:47:44 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 26, 2023, 10:31:14 AM
I fear Nebraska may have lost it's BB status, permanently, and won't recover no matter who is coach.  You have to recruit at a high level to do well, duh, and I don't think they can today.
Agreed. Location and population/demographics. Gotta recruit nationally, and Nebraska hasn't been a helmet in current recruits' lifetimes.

How are you going to convince talent from warm sunny possibly coastal climes to spend winter in Lincoln?
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Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
« Reply #72 on: November 26, 2023, 10:48:43 AM »
Rhule and his staff seem to be pretty good recruiters

better yet they seem to be able to develop players

a bowl game would have been huge for recruiting and development 

I think they go to a bowl next season

no, UNL is not going to recruit at the level of a top 5 or top 10 recruiting class
of course they very seldomly have
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Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
« Reply #73 on: November 26, 2023, 10:49:50 AM »
Quote from: Temp430 on November 26, 2023, 10:47:17 AM
Rhule is an excellent coach.  I’d give him a four years.
For sure.

Complete rebuild job for what he wants to run.

Same goes for the guy in Madison.
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Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
« Reply #74 on: November 26, 2023, 10:50:56 AM »
Quote from: Temp430 on November 26, 2023, 10:47:17 AM
Rhule is an excellent coach.  I’d give him a four years.
agreed
He's doing things the right way since his arrival
his biggest mistake so far has been Jeff Sims

that was a big mistake
cost him 2 or 3 wins this season
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Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
« Reply #75 on: November 26, 2023, 11:41:13 AM »
Rhule does strike me as a solid coach.  I wonder if the Aggies might come offering.

I would guess he can get Nebbie into consistent 8 win seasons.
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Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
« Reply #76 on: November 26, 2023, 11:45:04 AM »
don't think Aggies is looking at him after one 5-7 season, but if their next coach doesn't work out and Rhule proves himself at UNL in 3 or 4 seasons........certainly

and he'd be a fool to not take the $$$ and better recruiting advantage

he does seem like the type that would like to stay in Lincoln and become the next Devaney/Osborne
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Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
« Reply #77 on: November 26, 2023, 11:45:38 AM »
This really is the Kirk-Brian masterpiece. 
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Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
« Reply #78 on: November 26, 2023, 11:54:21 AM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on November 26, 2023, 10:47:44 AM
Agreed. Location and population/demographics. Gotta recruit nationally, and Nebraska hasn't been a helmet in current recruits' lifetimes.

How are you going to convince talent from warm sunny possibly coastal climes to spend winter in Lincoln?

this yarn has been uttered for 50+ years. 
how does anybody from warm sunny coastal climes ever get dooped into playing in winter climates.     It didn't suddenly become cold in BIG climates.
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Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
« Reply #79 on: November 26, 2023, 12:10:31 PM »
The population overall in warm and sunny climes is growing, and has been for decades.  That is a factor.

I know around here HS football is a LOT more developed than it was in my day.  

We all know what attracts elite level recruits, though the weighting varies by individual.
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Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
« Reply #80 on: November 26, 2023, 12:25:50 PM »
And those same challenges have faced Nebraska then as they do now, it isn't novel.   

What's kind of funny is that was one of the only things Callahan was successful at, Recruiting 'nationally'.   His problems of course were too numerous to inventory here not to mention I don't care to further reminisce. 
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Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
« Reply #81 on: November 26, 2023, 12:28:09 PM »
Quote from: MarqHusker on November 26, 2023, 12:25:50 PM
And those same challenges have faced Nebraska then as they do now, it isn't novel. 
I think the landscape has changed significantly since say 1975 or even 1995.  Obviously NIL is the new factor, I have no clue how often that is a deciding point for recruits.

I suspect the main thing for elite players is to get to the NFL in three years.  Elite QBs aren't going to "wait their turn" ...

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Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
« Reply #82 on: November 26, 2023, 12:35:22 PM »
Rhule has a pretty good track record of putting kids from Temple and Baylor into the NFL

most of those kids weren't 4 and 5 stars

Rhule expects to recruit much better in Lincoln than in Waco

he expects to put many players in the NFL at UNL

this would enhance recruiting obviously

it will take a few seasons to see if he can meet his own expectations

I'm willing to give him a couple more seasons
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Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
« Reply #83 on: November 26, 2023, 12:40:24 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on November 26, 2023, 10:42:44 AM
I'm not wishing for a new coach.
Rhule has made some real progress this season over Frost and Riley

Run offense and defense are much better
Defense overall is much much better - hope we can keep the D-coordinator
Special teams weren't great but a big improvement

2022 lost to Northwestern and Georgia Southern - 4-8
2021 lost the last 6 games - 3-9
2019 5-7 Frost's best season
2018 lost to Troy - 4-8
2017 lost to N. Illinois - 4-8 - Riley's last season
2023 - lost last 4 games of season and missed a bowl after starting 5-3 and 3-2 in conference
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