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Title: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
Post by: Hawkinole on November 20, 2023, 01:00:15 AM
Nebraska is at home for the season finale and can become bowl eligible. Nebraska is looking to take two straight from the Hawkeyes. The betting line is Iowa with a 2-point advantage, and the over/under is 30.
The Hawkeyes offense seems to have improved a smidgen, although point totals do not support that improvement, mainly because Iowa hasn't had special teams or defensive touchdowns recently.
Iowa PF is 118, PA 99 (conference)
Neb. PF is 129, PA 145 (conference)
I think it will be a close one. Neb. has a better defense than Iowa's last two opponents, Northwestern and Illinois. Nebraska's offense is less competent than Northwestern, and Illinois.
The betting line suggests Iowa 16 - Neb. 14.
I don't know how Iowa gets to 16. I would say Nebraska better watch out for giving up a safety.
Title: Re: #16 Iowa (6-2) (9-2) v. Nebraska (3-5) (5-6)
Post by: Temp430 on November 20, 2023, 06:29:00 AM
I'm thinking Nebraska can win this game since its fairly meaningless to the Hawkeyes, at home, and means becoming bowl eligible for the Huskers.  That would be pretty good for Rhule's first year.
Title: Re: #16 Iowa (6-2) (9-2) v. Nebraska (3-5) (5-6)
Post by: LittlePig on November 20, 2023, 08:22:02 AM
Nebraska will have edge in motivation that is true.  Iowa has the Big Ten West clinched, so what does Iowa play for?

On the other hand, Nebraska has lost 3 games in a row,  struggled on offense and can be a turnover machine.  Will they even be able to score  on Phil Parker's defense?  Iowa's offense usually can squeak out one TD a game and that might be enough for Iowa to win.

Agree the game will be close,  but some teams like Iowa just find a way to win in the 4Q and some teams like Nebraska just find a way to lose 
Title: Re: #16 Iowa (6-2) (9-2) v. Nebraska (3-5) (5-6)
Post by: Cincydawg on November 20, 2023, 08:25:30 AM
Iowa at 10-3 would get a pretty solid ranking in the polls and likely NY6 bowl, at 9-4 not so much, and of course I think the motivation part runs out as soon as toe meets leather usually.  It can impact game prep.
Title: Re: #16 Iowa (6-2) (9-2) v. Nebraska (3-5) (5-6)
Post by: LittlePig on November 20, 2023, 08:38:58 AM
Iowa also does have revenge on its mind.  Nebraska did upset Iowa last year,  costing Iowa the West title in 2022.   

But Nebraska also embarrassed Phil Parker's secondary last year.   Parker remembers this and I am sure he would like to completely shut down the Husker passing game this time. 
Title: Re: #16 Iowa (6-2) (9-2) v. Nebraska (3-5) (5-6)
Post by: 847badgerfan on November 20, 2023, 08:54:48 AM
I think Iowa would like to go into Indy on a high note, rather than limping in.

Does Iowa have a punchers chance in Indy? Sure, why not. They will play the game and there is always a chance - no matter how small that chance is.
Title: Re: #16 Iowa (6-2) (9-2) v. Nebraska (3-5) (5-6)
Post by: Cincydawg on November 20, 2023, 08:59:44 AM
Every team has some "chance", of course often the chance is so near zero we pay it no heed.  I think a great offense and lousy defense is more likely to upset a "Michigan" than the reverse.  I'd guess we'd be looking at a 17 point dog in that game, with a team not known for scoring much at all.

Title: Re: #16 Iowa (6-2) (9-2) v. Nebraska (3-5) (5-6)
Post by: FearlessF on November 20, 2023, 09:23:40 AM
Agree the game will be close,  but some teams like Iowa just find a way to win in the 4Q and some teams like Nebraska just find a way to lose
the only analysis anyone needs for this contest
Title: Re: #16 Iowa (6-2) (9-2) v. Nebraska (3-5) (5-6)
Post by: FearlessF on November 20, 2023, 12:24:28 PM
Nebraska and Iowa will meet Friday in Lincoln for the 13th annual Heroes Game, presented by Pioneer. As part of the rivalry game, citizen heroes were selected from each state, with Josh Hicks chosen as Nebraska's Hero and Eric Kumm selected as Iowa's Hero. Both recipients will be recognized Friday at Memorial Stadium.

The Heroes Game was created to honor the rich football traditions of the University of Iowa and the University of Nebraska football programs while also annually honoring community heroes in both states. The 2023 citizen heroes have positively impacted the community and stand as an inspiration to others.

Hicks, a Lincoln native, will be honored as the Nebraska Hero. An HVAC technician accustomed to heavy lifts was at the right place at the right time, as he played a pivotal role in rescuing and pulling a man from a van that tumbled off a highway into a lake near Wichita, Kansas this past July.

When asked by the Lincoln Journal Star if felt like what he did was heroic, Hicks responded by saying, “I had no idea who was in that van. Don’t care. Don’t know if they’re hurt, we’re just gonna go down there and check it out, make sure if anybody needs our help, we’re there,” he said. “There was no, ‘I’m gonna go out and be a hero and save some lives today.’”

Eric Kumm, a vocational agriculture teacher and FFA advisor since 1997 in the South O’Brien school district, has been an incredible influence on countless young minds. There are many kids in rural Iowa who found their love and passion for agriculture under his tutelage. Without his guidance, many small towns in Northwest Iowa would be without veterinarians, agronomists, welders, ag teachers, farmers and many other ag related jobs that students found their passion for under Eric.

“Pioneer is incredibly grateful to honor both Josh and Eric for their heroic and impactful efforts in our Midwest communities,” said Jeremy Renz, Pioneer US Marketing Director. For nearly 100 years, we’ve been helping and honoring farmers throughout the U.S. and we are excited to keep that tradition going by honoring local heroes that live and work in the communities we serve every day. This partnership is one small way we can express our sincere gratitude for those heroes.”

Hicks and Kumm will attend the game as special guests of the teams, receive on-field recognition at halftime, and have their names inscribed on the game trophy.


(https://i.imgur.com/bIt1Rsf.jpg)
Title: Re: #16 Iowa (6-2) (9-2) v. Nebraska (3-5) (5-6)
Post by: Cincydawg on November 20, 2023, 03:00:18 PM
Outstanding.
Title: Re: #16 Iowa (6-2) (9-2) AT Nebraska (3-5) (5-6)
Post by: Hawkinole on November 20, 2023, 03:27:29 PM
The Nebraska guy, Josh Hicks, went over and beyond the expectation for a lay person responding to an emergency. The description of his actions appear heroic.

Title: Re: #16 Iowa (6-2) (9-2) AT Nebraska (3-5) (5-6)
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on November 20, 2023, 03:47:00 PM
Does Iowa have a punchers chance in Indy? Sure, why not. They will play the game and there is always a chance - no matter how small that chance is.
I might regret this since it could end up being my team but:
https://youtu.be/KX5jNnDMfxA?si=eAm6fISzlX4AV9il

IMHO, the gap between tOSU/M and Iowa is so large that the size of the gap is the biggest thing going FOR Iowa.

The tOSU/M game is so big that the winner is going to naturally feel like they are "done". Watching national pundits, everybody seems to more-or-less assume that the tOSU/M winner will be top-2 in the CFP. The pesky little B1GCG is a complete afterthought. 

It will be difficult for the tOSU/M coaching staff to keep their team focused on Iowa.
Title: Re: #16 Iowa (6-2) (9-2) AT Nebraska (3-5) (5-6)
Post by: Cincydawg on November 20, 2023, 04:03:09 PM
Teams often overlook somebody with a big game coming up, but the disparity in this case is probably too much to overcome unless one side is +3 in TOs.
Title: Re: #16 Iowa (6-2) (9-2) AT Nebraska (3-5) (5-6)
Post by: FearlessF on November 20, 2023, 05:53:48 PM
kinda like Michigan overlooked TCU
Title: Re: #16 Iowa (6-2) (9-2) AT Nebraska (3-5) (5-6)
Post by: FearlessF on November 20, 2023, 06:44:37 PM
Odds for Nebraska football's final regular season game of the year against Iowa have now shifted.

The matchup between the Huskers (5-6, 3-5 Big Ten) and Hawkeyes (9-2, 6-2) in their Black Friday rivalry game at Memorial Stadium (11 a.m. CT kickoff on CBS) opened with Iowa being favored at -1, but the line has shifted to Nebraska favored at -1.5 as of Monday afternoon, per BetMGM. The point total is 26.5 as of Monday.

After being shown exclusively on NBC streaming-only service Peacock and then being in the NBC spotlight game of the week in primetime, the Huskers' matchup with Iowa will be their first game on CBS in the first year under the Big Ten's new TV deal. Below are some more odds, trends and records ATS for both teams this season.


Nebraska betting trends in 2023
>> Nebraska is 5-6 straight up as the Huskers have lost three games in a row after having won five of their previous seven prior to the losing streak. Nebraska is 4-7 against the spread under Rhule this season.

>> Against the spread, they have gone 3-4 as the underdog and 1-3 as the favorite in their 10 games. Straight up, the Huskers are 2-5 as the underdog and 3-1 as the favorite.

>> The over is 5-6 in Nebraska's games this season (the over has hit five times, the under has hit six times).

>> Nebraska is 4-2 at home straight up and 1-4 on the road this year.


Iowa trends
>> Iowa has been favored in 9 of its previous 11 games this season.

>> Iowa is 9-2 straight up and 5-5-1 against the spread.

>> The over is 2-9 in Iowa's games this season (the over has hit in two of their games, and the under has hit nine times) despite routinely having the lowest point total in college football for most of its games this year.

>> The Hawkeyes are 8-1 as the favorite straight up and 1-1 as an underdog. They are 3-5-1 against the spread as the favorite and 1-1 as the underdog (W: Wisconsin, L: Penn State)

>> Iowa is 6-1 straight up at home and 3-1 straight up on the road this season. The Hawkeyes are 3-3-1 against the spread at home and 2-2 against the spread on the road.
Title: Re: #16 Iowa (6-2) (9-2) AT Nebraska (3-5) (5-6)
Post by: FearlessF on November 20, 2023, 07:22:07 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/AXWiSaL.png)
Title: Re: #16 Iowa (6-2) (9-2) AT Nebraska (3-5) (5-6)
Post by: FearlessF on November 20, 2023, 09:22:15 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/kVWc3Uj.png)
Title: Re: #16 Iowa (6-2) (9-2) AT Nebraska (3-5) (5-6)
Post by: FearlessF on November 20, 2023, 09:42:31 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/27JHSAf.png)
Title: Re: #16 Iowa (6-2) (9-2) AT Nebraska (3-5) (5-6)
Post by: LittlePig on November 21, 2023, 01:40:05 AM
[img width=160.137 height=499.994]https://i.imgur.com/kVWc3Uj.png[/img]
Nebraska is #88 in net punting.  Iowa is #1 in net punting.  That could end being the difference in what will probably be a low-scoring defensive battle.
Title: Re: #16 Iowa (6-2) (9-2) AT Nebraska (3-5) (5-6)
Post by: 847badgerfan on November 21, 2023, 06:24:43 AM
Probably?
Title: Re: #16 Iowa (6-2) (9-2) AT Nebraska (3-5) (5-6)
Post by: MarqHusker on November 21, 2023, 07:35:29 AM
That's like saying someone is half pregnant.  
Title: Re: #16 Iowa (6-2) (9-2) AT Nebraska (3-5) (5-6)
Post by: Cincydawg on November 21, 2023, 07:49:18 AM
Iowa 6  Nebbie 4  in Double OT...
Title: Re: #16 Iowa (6-2) (9-2) AT Nebraska (3-5) (5-6)
Post by: FearlessF on November 21, 2023, 08:02:48 AM
Nebraska is #88 in net punting.  Iowa is #1 in net punting.  That could end being the difference in what will probably be a low-scoring defensive battle.
sure as hell was an advantage for the Badgers last week
not sure what happened to the Husker punter, started the season pretty well
Title: Re: #16 Iowa (6-2) (9-2) AT Nebraska (3-5) (5-6)
Post by: FearlessF on November 21, 2023, 05:18:37 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/OcLGYlN.jpg)
Title: Re: #16 Iowa (6-2) (9-2) AT Nebraska (3-5) (5-6)
Post by: Benthere2 on November 22, 2023, 12:48:18 AM
i think big Red pulls this off
Iowa has been getting some fortunate bounces in most games not with Minnesota
and the Huskers are playing really well
Title: Re: #16 Iowa (6-2) (9-2) AT Nebraska (3-5) (5-6)
Post by: Hawkinole on November 22, 2023, 01:41:14 AM
Iowa 6  Nebbie 4  in Double OT...
Iowa defeated Purdue 4-0 in 1939. A couple months ago one of my friends (in his 80s) introduced me to a lady at a social event who appeared to be about 80 who is a daughter of one of the Iowa football players who played on the 1939 team with Nile Kinnick in that 4-0 win, and he brought up that 4-0 Purdue game in our discussion. I thought I was the only kook who knew about that result in our town of 5,000.

Cincydawg knows, Iowa had the 6-4 game in 2004 at Penn State. These improbable scores have happened in the hx of Iowa football. Twice I think in 1,306 games. The way this team plays defense and the way it doesn't play offense makes it more probable than most seasons, but 6-4, 2-0, 4-0, 4-3 are unlikely even with this team. Maybe Nebraska can score 4, but how is Nebraska going to score 3? 
Title: Re: #16 Iowa (6-2) (9-2) AT Nebraska (3-5) (5-6)
Post by: FearlessF on November 22, 2023, 04:45:42 AM
I will be in Lincoln for this game. 

Anyone else???
Title: Re: #16 Iowa (6-2) (9-2) AT Nebraska (3-5) (5-6)
Post by: Cincydawg on November 22, 2023, 05:29:00 AM
Too cold for me by far ...
Title: Re: #16 Iowa (6-2) (9-2) AT Nebraska (3-5) (5-6)
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on November 22, 2023, 09:33:09 AM
Are they charging admission to this game?  

Iowa is the worst 9-2 P5 team ever, right?  
Title: Re: #16 Iowa (6-2) (9-2) AT Nebraska (3-5) (5-6)
Post by: 847badgerfan on November 22, 2023, 09:36:02 AM
I don't think they'd be 9-2 if they weren't playing in one of the worst (the worst??) P5 divisions.
Title: Re: #16 Iowa (6-2) (9-2) AT Nebraska (3-5) (5-6)
Post by: FearlessF on November 22, 2023, 10:02:49 AM
Are they charging admission to this game? 

Iowa is the worst 9-2 P5 team ever, right? 

there will be enough Hawks fans from the west side of the state coming into town to keep tickets prices above $0.
closer drive than Iowa City
and of course Husker fans are crazy
I'll be tailgating a block from the stadium, I'll ask around for scalper pricing.
I'm guessing $20 will get a Bob Uecker seat
Title: Re: #16 Iowa (6-2) (9-2) AT Nebraska (3-5) (5-6)
Post by: MrNubbz on November 22, 2023, 10:03:58 AM
FARMAGEDDON!!! Git 'er done

"Must be in the Front Row"
Title: Re: #16 Iowa (6-2) (9-2) AT Nebraska (3-5) (5-6)
Post by: FearlessF on November 22, 2023, 10:09:53 AM
(https://www.huskerhounds.com/resize/shared/images/PP-33500.JPG?bw=1000&w=1000&bh=1000&h=1000)
Title: Re: #16 Iowa (6-2) (9-2) AT Nebraska (3-5) (5-6)
Post by: FearlessF on November 22, 2023, 10:27:55 AM
https://youtu.be/l05Q6Ra0nPo
Title: Re: #16 Iowa (6-2) (9-2) AT Nebraska (3-5) (5-6)
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on November 22, 2023, 10:36:03 AM
There are some extremely bad "good record" teams in the early 80s, in terms of point differential.  But in context, this Iowa team is much worse.
Back then, you felt good about at 20-7 win, because both teams were running the ball 80% of the time and the defenses knew it.  Like zombies hurling themselves against an impenetrable door or something.  

Title: Re: #16 Iowa (6-2) (9-2) AT Nebraska (3-5) (5-6)
Post by: FearlessF on November 22, 2023, 10:50:32 AM
obviously, if you take away the PSU slaughter
the point differential is much better, but still not great
Title: Re: #16 Iowa (6-2) (9-2) AT Nebraska (3-5) (5-6)
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on November 22, 2023, 11:00:16 AM
You can't have a good point differential averaging 20 points scored per game.  
Even the best defenses ever allowed like 10 ppg.  So with such a low scoring ceiling, the variance isn't there.

This year, looking around at other teams, Miami has a +8 ppg differential.  They're 6-5.  
A&M, with their fired HC, has a +15 ppg diff, with a 7-4 record.

Yeah, in the 2023 context, Iowa is a godawful 9-2 team.
Title: Re: #16 Iowa (6-2) (9-2) AT Nebraska (3-5) (5-6)
Post by: FearlessF on November 22, 2023, 11:11:13 AM
especially cornsidering the SOS

also it's tough to imagine being a underdog to Nebraska
Title: Re: #16 Iowa (6-2) (9-2) AT Nebraska (3-5) (5-6)
Post by: FearlessF on November 22, 2023, 11:12:34 AM
I hear the over/under is down to 26

14-12 or more likely 16-10 or 17-9
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (6-2, 9-2) at Nebraska (3-5, 5-6) Game Week
Post by: ELA on November 22, 2023, 12:36:57 PM
Iowa 20, Nebraska 7
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (6-2, 9-2) at Nebraska (3-5, 5-6) Game Week
Post by: LittlePig on November 22, 2023, 01:53:55 PM
Are they charging admission to this game? 

Iowa is the worst 9-2 P5 team ever, right?
I have a feeling Kirk Ferentz gets a good laugh every time one of the experts tries to tell him the key to winning games.
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (6-2, 9-2) at Nebraska (3-5, 5-6) Game Week
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on November 22, 2023, 02:38:24 PM
I have a feeling Kirk Ferentz gets a good laugh every time one of the experts tries to tell him the key to winning games.
They've played exactly 1 team with an actual pulse and lost 31-0.
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (6-2, 9-2) at Nebraska (3-5, 5-6) Game Week
Post by: 847badgerfan on November 22, 2023, 03:02:45 PM
They've played exactly 1 team with an actual pulse and lost 31-0.

Winning that game in Madison was not easy. UW had a pulse for sure. The UW QB went down and that was that.
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (6-2, 9-2) at Nebraska (3-5, 5-6) Game Week
Post by: LittlePig on November 22, 2023, 03:24:36 PM
They've played exactly 1 team with an actual pulse and lost 31-0.
Yes, and that's why Iowa is behind PSU in all the polls.   

And Iowa is 9-1 against everybody else,  including beating 4 teams going to a bowl so far. 

Add it all up, Iowa is not a top 15 team,  but is worthy of the top 25. 
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (6-2, 9-2) at Nebraska (3-5, 5-6) Game Week
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on November 22, 2023, 04:53:01 PM
King of the 6-win teams!
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (6-2, 9-2) at Nebraska (3-5, 5-6) Game Week
Post by: LittlePig on November 22, 2023, 05:48:28 PM
Well look at this way. 

If Iowa traded places with Indiana and played in the East. Iowa would probably have a record of 7-4.  But that takes badly balanced divisions and makes them even worse.

So let's say they trade Iowa and Michigan and Iowa plays in the east and Michigan in the West.  Iowa would probably have a record of 8-3 (5-3) and would finish 3rd in the east

Since Iowa is going to the CCG,  Iowa will end up losing 3 games.  One way or another,  Iowa is a 3-loss team, with 2 of the losses to top-12 teams. 
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (6-2, 9-2) at Nebraska (3-5, 5-6) Game Week
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on November 23, 2023, 01:14:11 AM
Well look at this way. 

If Iowa traded places with Indiana and played in the East. Iowa would probably have a record of 7-4.  But that takes badly balanced divisions and makes them even worse.

So let's say they trade Iowa and Michigan and Iowa plays in the east and Michigan in the West.  Iowa would probably have a record of 8-3 (5-3) and would finish 3rd in the east

Since Iowa is going to the CCG,  Iowa will end up losing 3 games.  One way or another,  Iowa is a 3-loss team, with 2 of the losses to top-12 teams.

The only problem is that we've SEEN them play.  
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (6-2, 9-2) at Nebraska (3-5, 5-6) Game Week
Post by: Cincydawg on November 24, 2023, 03:52:09 PM
Shazam. 
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (6-2, 9-2) at Nebraska (3-5, 5-6) Game Week
Post by: 847badgerfan on November 24, 2023, 04:00:44 PM
Nebraska will have edge in motivation that is true.  Iowa has the Big Ten West clinched, so what does Iowa play for?

On the other hand, Nebraska has lost 3 games in a row,  struggled on offense and can be a turnover machine.  Will they even be able to score  on Phil Parker's defense?  Iowa's offense usually can squeak out one TD a game and that might be enough for Iowa to win.

Agree the game will be close,  but some teams like Iowa just find a way to win in the 4Q and some teams like Nebraska just find a way to lose
You should play the lotto tonight.
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (6-2, 9-2) at Nebraska (3-5, 5-6) Game Week
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on November 24, 2023, 04:02:39 PM
My eyes are opened.  Iowa is really good!  :88:
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (6-2, 9-2) at Nebraska (3-5, 5-6) Game Week
Post by: 847badgerfan on November 24, 2023, 04:04:47 PM
My eyes are opened.  Iowa is really good!  :88:
Backup (and terrible) QB, missing one of the best players in the country. 

That defense is really good, along with special teams. The rest is not so much good.
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (6-2, 9-2) at Nebraska (3-5, 5-6) Game Week
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on November 24, 2023, 04:26:20 PM
We'll see how good that defense is in Indy.
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (6-2, 9-2) at Nebraska (3-5, 5-6) Game Week
Post by: 847badgerfan on November 24, 2023, 04:29:50 PM
It can only do so much given the offense. You put any semblance of an offense on that field with the Iowa defense, and... look out. 
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (6-2, 9-2) at Nebraska (3-5, 5-6) Game Week
Post by: Hawkinole on November 24, 2023, 07:13:45 PM
It can only do so much given the offense. You put any semblance of an offense on that field with the Iowa defense, and... look out.
This.
I am growing tired of the phrase "complementary football." Iowa does a lot of things well to keep themselves in the game. But, complementary football would involve a more consistent offense. 
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (6-2, 9-2) at Nebraska (3-5, 5-6) Game Week
Post by: LittlePig on November 24, 2023, 07:46:47 PM
You should play the lotto tonight.
Sigh...  If only the lotto was as predictable as Iowa and Nebraska in the 4Q. 

The only thing unpredictable was Iowa's normally reliable FG kicker having an awful day,  getting 2 FG's blocked and kicking 2 kickoffs out of bounds.  He was so awful he got yanked on Iowa's game winning FG for the backup kicker. 

Keep in mind, Iowa's starting FG kicker just recently nailed a 53 yard game winner against NW 3 weeks ago.  He has been clutch his whole career.  It's just weird what happened today.
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (6-2, 9-2) at Nebraska (3-5, 5-6) Game Week
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on November 24, 2023, 07:54:43 PM
It can only do so much given the offense. You put any semblance of an offense on that field with the Iowa defense, and... look out.
 I know all too well.  We had Muschamp as HC, remember?  
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (6-2, 9-2) at Nebraska (3-5, 5-6) Game Week
Post by: Hawkinole on November 25, 2023, 12:17:57 AM
Sigh...  If only the lotto was as predictable as Iowa and Nebraska in the 4Q. 

The only thing unpredictable was Iowa's normally reliable FG kicker having an awful day,  getting 2 FG's blocked and kicking 2 kickoffs out of bounds.  He was so awful he got yanked on Iowa's game winning FG for the backup kicker. 

Keep in mind, Iowa's starting FG kicker just recently nailed a 53 yard game winner against NW 3 weeks ago.  He has been clutch his whole career.  It's just weird what happened today.
Drew Stevens has been reliable, but he missed, or had an extra point blocked in the final minutes of Illinois. The trajectory isn't right. Minor injuries can cause issues. Something is going on with him, whether it is a minor injury, or mental lapse. Kickers are comparable to women gymnasts in that kickers get the twisties, too.
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (6-2, 9-2) at Nebraska (3-5, 5-6) Game Week
Post by: LittlePig on November 25, 2023, 04:23:57 AM
Drew Stevens has been reliable, but he missed, or had an extra point blocked in the final minutes of Illinois. The trajectory isn't right. Minor injuries can cause issues. Something is going on with him, whether it is a minor injury, or mental lapse. Kickers are comparable to women gymnasts in that kickers get the twisties, too.
Yeah I forgot the blocked extra point against Illinois.  There is a pattern there.  I just hope Drew Stevens does not turn into the next Trent Mossbrucker,  which is a name Hawkinole might remember.  Mossbrucker had a great freshman season as a kicker for Iowa in 2008,  then just fell apart late in the season, got pulled for Daniel Murray in the 2008 PSU game game where Murray kicked the game winning FG. Mossbrucker was never the same after that.  Got a 2nd chance in 2010 to be the kicker and got pulled after 3 games. Spent the last 2 years of his career on the bench.
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
Post by: LittlePig on November 25, 2023, 12:42:18 PM
I guess the rumor now is that Iowa kicker Stevens has a groin pull that was giving him fits.   The Iowa coaches had already made the decision at half time to use Meeder for short FGs and extra points.  Knowing this, solving the problem may as be as simple as Stevens getting healthy.  I don't know what this means for the CCG.  Stevens kickoffs were never returned. 
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
Post by: Hawkinole on November 25, 2023, 04:52:05 PM
I guess the rumor now is that Iowa kicker Stevens has a groin pull that was giving him fits.  The Iowa coaches had already made the decision at half time to use Meeder for short FGs and extra points.  Knowing this, solving the problem may as be as simple as Stevens getting healthy.  I don't know what this means for the CCG.  Stevens kickoffs were never returned.
I was unaware of the groin pull rumor. A groin pull would explain a lot. Injury management is not the greatest at the U of Iowa.
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
Post by: FearlessF on November 25, 2023, 04:57:54 PM
(https://scontent.ffod1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/403749061_10224816389659587_2461282579809277780_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=T3f9-P1X6EYAX93Y4xA&_nc_ht=scontent.ffod1-1.fna&oh=00_AfAJGpI1G9vU1kBYELeZNbDeWr9MuiCbD8tSVLf0Ie6HYw&oe=65677AA9)
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
Post by: FearlessF on November 25, 2023, 08:00:33 PM
Chubba Purdy had two giveaways Friday and threw an interception on NU’s final offensive play in each of its final three defeats to Maryland, Wisconsin and Iowa.
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
Post by: Hawkinole on November 26, 2023, 01:26:27 AM
Nebraska Football on X: "Special moment for #63 today on Senior Day. @NouredinNouili surprised his stepdad during the senior presentation in Memorial, coming out of the tunnel with his last name Ragaller across his back. https://t.co/B4Aw6eLDuq" / X (twitter.com) (https://twitter.com/HuskerFootball/status/1728094954092642340?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1728094954092642340|twgr^f0f0d6741848ec7c18554f1ff1d19d342928ae69|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cornnation.com%2F2023%2F11%2F25%2F23975004%2Fnebraska-football-worst-case-scenario-is-matt-rhule-and-huskers-wasted-a-potential-historic-season)
This is really cool. Nebraska OL Nouili honors his stepfather on Senior Day against Iowa (usatoday.com) (https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2023/11/24/nebraska-ol-nouili-honors-his-stepfather-on-senior-day-against-iowa/71694841007/)
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
Post by: Cincydawg on November 26, 2023, 09:48:18 AM
So, where does Nebbie go from here?
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
Post by: 847badgerfan on November 26, 2023, 09:56:32 AM
Hire Ryan Day?
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
Post by: LittlePig on November 26, 2023, 10:18:47 AM
Be careful wishing for a new coach. 

Since Nebraska fired Bo Pelini following the 2014 season,  Iowa is 8-1 against Nebraska,  including 3 wins coming on FG's in the last minute.  Iowa also has won the Big Ten West 3 times since Pellini's firing.   Meanwhile Nebraska has not a had a winning season or a bowl game since 2016.
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
Post by: 847badgerfan on November 26, 2023, 10:28:07 AM
Nebraska has exactly one win against Wisconsin since joining the league. 2012. 

Of course, Big Red avenged that loss later that season with a 70-31 beatdown in Indianapolis.

Title: Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
Post by: FearlessF on November 26, 2023, 10:30:45 AM
So, where does Nebbie go from here?
to the portal for a couple serviceable QBs - DUH!!!

and the coaching ranks for an O-Line coach

VS Iowa.........
Started 2 seniors on offense
O-Line Guard & Slot WR - neither were stand outs
Started 3 seniors on defense
LB, Safety, and Corner - the Corner was pretty good - obviously not all conference

played a large amount of freshmen and sophomores both sides of the ball
entire D-Line returns - they were pretty good

2024 sched - 5 of 1st 6 games at home.
Could get off to a better start.

UTEP - Lincoln
Colorado - Lincoln
Northern Iowa - Lincoln
Illinois - Lincoln
Purdue - West Lafayette
Rutgers - Lincoln
Indiana - Bloomington
Ohio State - Columbus
UCLA - Lincoln
Southern Cal - Los Angeles
Wisconsin - Lincoln
Iowa - Iowa City
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
Post by: Cincydawg on November 26, 2023, 10:31:14 AM
I fear Nebraska may have lost it's BB status, permanently, and won't recover no matter who is coach.  You have to recruit at a high level to do well, duh, and I don't think they can today.
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
Post by: FearlessF on November 26, 2023, 10:42:44 AM
Be careful wishing for a new coach.

I'm not wishing for a new coach.
Rhule has made some real progress this season over Frost and Riley

Run offense and defense are much better
Defense overall is much much better - hope we can keep the D-coordinator 
Special teams weren't great but a big improvement

2022 lost to Northwestern and Georgia Southern - 4-8
2021 lost the last 6 games - 3-9
2019 5-7 Frost's best season
2018 lost to Troy - 4-8
2017 lost to N. Illinois - 4-8 - Riley's last season
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
Post by: Temp430 on November 26, 2023, 10:47:17 AM
Rhule is an excellent coach.  I’d give him a four years.
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on November 26, 2023, 10:47:44 AM
I fear Nebraska may have lost it's BB status, permanently, and won't recover no matter who is coach.  You have to recruit at a high level to do well, duh, and I don't think they can today.
Agreed. Location and population/demographics. Gotta recruit nationally, and Nebraska hasn't been a helmet in current recruits' lifetimes.

How are you going to convince talent from warm sunny possibly coastal climes to spend winter in Lincoln?
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
Post by: FearlessF on November 26, 2023, 10:48:43 AM
Rhule and his staff seem to be pretty good recruiters

better yet they seem to be able to develop players

a bowl game would have been huge for recruiting and development 

I think they go to a bowl next season

no, UNL is not going to recruit at the level of a top 5 or top 10 recruiting class
of course they very seldomly have
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
Post by: 847badgerfan on November 26, 2023, 10:49:50 AM
Rhule is an excellent coach.  I’d give him a four years.
For sure.

Complete rebuild job for what he wants to run.

Same goes for the guy in Madison.
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
Post by: FearlessF on November 26, 2023, 10:50:56 AM
Rhule is an excellent coach.  I’d give him a four years.
agreed
He's doing things the right way since his arrival
his biggest mistake so far has been Jeff Sims

that was a big mistake
cost him 2 or 3 wins this season
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
Post by: Cincydawg on November 26, 2023, 11:41:13 AM
Rhule does strike me as a solid coach.  I wonder if the Aggies might come offering.

I would guess he can get Nebbie into consistent 8 win seasons.
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
Post by: FearlessF on November 26, 2023, 11:45:04 AM
don't think Aggies is looking at him after one 5-7 season, but if their next coach doesn't work out and Rhule proves himself at UNL in 3 or 4 seasons........certainly

and he'd be a fool to not take the $$$ and better recruiting advantage

he does seem like the type that would like to stay in Lincoln and become the next Devaney/Osborne
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
Post by: bayareabadger on November 26, 2023, 11:45:38 AM
This really is the Kirk-Brian masterpiece. 
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
Post by: MarqHusker on November 26, 2023, 11:54:21 AM
Agreed. Location and population/demographics. Gotta recruit nationally, and Nebraska hasn't been a helmet in current recruits' lifetimes.

How are you going to convince talent from warm sunny possibly coastal climes to spend winter in Lincoln?

this yarn has been uttered for 50+ years. 
how does anybody from warm sunny coastal climes ever get dooped into playing in winter climates.     It didn't suddenly become cold in BIG climates.
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
Post by: Cincydawg on November 26, 2023, 12:10:31 PM
The population overall in warm and sunny climes is growing, and has been for decades.  That is a factor.

I know around here HS football is a LOT more developed than it was in my day.  

We all know what attracts elite level recruits, though the weighting varies by individual.
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
Post by: MarqHusker on November 26, 2023, 12:25:50 PM
And those same challenges have faced Nebraska then as they do now, it isn't novel.   

What's kind of funny is that was one of the only things Callahan was successful at, Recruiting 'nationally'.   His problems of course were too numerous to inventory here not to mention I don't care to further reminisce. 
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
Post by: Cincydawg on November 26, 2023, 12:28:09 PM
And those same challenges have faced Nebraska then as they do now, it isn't novel. 
I think the landscape has changed significantly since say 1975 or even 1995.  Obviously NIL is the new factor, I have no clue how often that is a deciding point for recruits.

I suspect the main thing for elite players is to get to the NFL in three years.  Elite QBs aren't going to "wait their turn" ...

Title: Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
Post by: FearlessF on November 26, 2023, 12:35:22 PM
Rhule has a pretty good track record of putting kids from Temple and Baylor into the NFL

most of those kids weren't 4 and 5 stars

Rhule expects to recruit much better in Lincoln than in Waco

he expects to put many players in the NFL at UNL

this would enhance recruiting obviously

it will take a few seasons to see if he can meet his own expectations

I'm willing to give him a couple more seasons
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
Post by: LittlePig on November 26, 2023, 12:40:24 PM
I'm not wishing for a new coach.
Rhule has made some real progress this season over Frost and Riley

Run offense and defense are much better
Defense overall is much much better - hope we can keep the D-coordinator
Special teams weren't great but a big improvement

2022 lost to Northwestern and Georgia Southern - 4-8
2021 lost the last 6 games - 3-9
2019 5-7 Frost's best season
2018 lost to Troy - 4-8
2017 lost to N. Illinois - 4-8 - Riley's last season
2023 - lost last 4 games of season and missed a bowl after starting 5-3 and 3-2 in conference
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
Post by: FearlessF on November 26, 2023, 12:50:42 PM
I was pointing out that this is a pattern.
It's no secret that UNL's schedule has been tougher in the 2nd half of the season for years
Hawks, Badgers, an East team
and this season the losses were even closer than in the past.
_______________________________

really hard to explain why the turnovers continue through 3 or 4 different coaching staffs and many QBs and players
the problem this season stems from the QB position obviously.

Adrian Martinez was a turnover machine in Frost's offense, but Frost's offense was turnover prone.
I'm willing to wait 12 months to see if the QB play improves next season
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
Post by: FearlessF on November 26, 2023, 01:17:15 PM
https://youtu.be/aNzPBPKFt4Q
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
Post by: FearlessF on November 26, 2023, 01:44:16 PM
Nebraska Football on X: "Special moment for #63 today on Senior Day. @NouredinNouili surprised his stepdad during the senior presentation in Memorial, coming out of the tunnel with his last name Ragaller across his back. https://t.co/B4Aw6eLDuq" / X (twitter.com) (https://twitter.com/HuskerFootball/status/1728094954092642340?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1728094954092642340|twgr^f0f0d6741848ec7c18554f1ff1d19d342928ae69|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cornnation.com%2F2023%2F11%2F25%2F23975004%2Fnebraska-football-worst-case-scenario-is-matt-rhule-and-huskers-wasted-a-potential-historic-season)
This is really cool. Nebraska OL Nouili honors his stepfather on Senior Day against Iowa (usatoday.com) (https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2023/11/24/nebraska-ol-nouili-honors-his-stepfather-on-senior-day-against-iowa/71694841007/)
I saw the Ragaller on the back of the jersey and I wondered who the hell this was and how many O-linemen had been injured or pulled for crap play?

never heard of RAGALLER nor seen his name on the 2-deep or the Roster
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
Post by: Cincydawg on November 26, 2023, 01:46:05 PM
I wish Nebbie well, I'd love to see a game there one of these days.
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
Post by: FearlessF on November 26, 2023, 02:24:36 PM
I'd love to be a host for that.
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
Post by: Cincydawg on November 26, 2023, 02:31:11 PM
Our travel schedule is getting crazy already.  But maybe next Fall it won't be so bizarre.  Then there is Nashville of course which I plan to make.

Title: Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
Post by: FearlessF on November 26, 2023, 03:00:40 PM
Nashville is a short trip in the GTI
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on November 26, 2023, 05:02:34 PM
this yarn has been uttered for 50+ years.
how does anybody from warm sunny coastal climes ever get dooped into playing in winter climates.    It didn't suddenly become cold in BIG climates.
It's about what you aspire to be. If you're a legitimate helmet known for challenging for the CFP and putting recruits in the NFL, you can recruit top talent nationally. If you're not, it doesn't mean that you can't recruit nationally, but it means you can't pull top talent away from home. You can get talent that isn't sought by the local helmets. The 2nd tier guys.

When Nebraska was a national power in the 90s, they could get those guys nationally. But they've fallen off. And I don't think the helmet is shiny enough to come back. 
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
Post by: Hawkinole on November 26, 2023, 11:03:38 PM
really hard to explain why the turnovers continue through 3 or 4 different coaching staffs and many QBs and players
the problem this season stems from the QB position obviously.

Adrian Martinez was a turnover machine in Frost's offense, but Frost's offense was turnover prone.
I'm willing to wait 12 months to see if the QB play improves next season
I was confident Nebraska would have better ball security this year. It makes no sense that turnovers continue from one coaching staff to the next. 
Nebraska did improve from 3-9 (2021) to 4-8 (2022) to 5-7 (2023). 
It's not good when your team leads the nation in turnovers lost, as it did in 2023.
Title: Re: #17 Iowa (7-2, 10-2) at Nebraska (3-6, 5-7) Postgame
Post by: FearlessF on November 27, 2023, 08:24:32 AM
the turnovers certainly have Rhule scratching his head

He talks about it openly in press conferences.  He's very impressed that the team has 5 victories inspite of the turnovers

a new QB could change this drastically, or not