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OrangeAfroMan

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Initial Playoff Committee Rankings
« on: October 31, 2018, 12:19:44 AM »
1. Alabama 8-0
2. Clemson 8-0
3. LSU 7-1
4. Notre Dame 8-0
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5. Michigan 7-1
6. Georgia 7-1
7. Oklahoma 7-1
8. Washington State 7-1
9. Kentucky 7-1
10. Ohio State 7-1
11. Florida 6-2
12. UCF 7-0
13. West Virginia 6-1
14. Penn State 6-2
15. Utah 6-2
16. Iowa 6-2
17. Texas 6-2
18. Miss State 5-3
19. Syracuse 6-2
20. Texas A&M 5-3
21. NC State 5-2
22. Boston College 6-2
23. Fresno State 7-1
24. Iowa State 4-3
25. Virginia 6-2
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Re: Initial Playoff Committee Rankings
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2018, 02:07:08 AM »
LSU's inclusion over Michigan seems ridiculous, to me. It doesn't matter this early. But politics matter, even in football.
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Re: Initial Playoff Committee Rankings
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2018, 05:22:31 AM »
Quote from: Hawkinole on October 31, 2018, 02:07:08 AM
LSU's inclusion over Michigan seems ridiculous, to me. It doesn't matter this early. But politics matter, even in football.
LSU has wins right now over 5 teams with winning records, including a top 10 win over UGA.  Not sure why that seems ridiculous.
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Re: Initial Playoff Committee Rankings
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2018, 05:26:03 AM »
The committee and I had the exact same top 11 and pretty much had the same top 20. They had UCF at 12 and I had WVU at 12.  I don’t agree but I’m not surprised.
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Re: Initial Playoff Committee Rankings
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2018, 07:02:45 AM »
It's early.  I'm fine with LSU at #3 at this point.    LSU and Michigan both have some big hurdles to get over before even starting to think about the CFP.
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Re: Initial Playoff Committee Rankings
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2018, 08:15:52 AM »
Still lots of football to be played.  Right now, I think this is correct.  But what if LSU wins out?  Does Bama still get the same benefit of the doubt, even if Clemson finishes 11-1 (or better), Notre Dame wins out, and Michigan wins out?  Would a 1-loss non-SEC champ Bama get in over a P5 1-loss champ based on the eye test?

Of course that's probably not going to happen, but it's still something to think about.
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Re: Initial Playoff Committee Rankings
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2018, 08:53:45 AM »
An 11-1 SEC nonchampion might get in if the alternatives have 2 losses.  That has been established.

Alabama does not have a very good OOC slate this year.  It wasn't terrific last year either though.

Should a program's performance in previous playoffs impact rankings of THIS year's team?  I'd say no, but ...

The LSU thing will sort itself out pretty soon.
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Re: Initial Playoff Committee Rankings
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2018, 09:30:59 AM »
I'd also not that this poll is really only notable in giving us a bit of insight into how the Committee is thinking about things.  The actual ranking is obviously going to change dramatically over time, even after this weekend.

I see, again, that a bad loss is, well "bad".

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Re: Initial Playoff Committee Rankings
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2018, 09:31:43 AM »
I also think WVU is the lowest ranked team "with a shot".  
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Re: Initial Playoff Committee Rankings
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2018, 09:49:13 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on October 31, 2018, 09:30:59 AM
I'd also not that this poll is really only notable in giving us a bit of insight into how the Committee is thinking about things.  The 
they've shown in the past that the insight one week doesn't mean much in the final poll
of course this is a new committee, so we won't know if they act the same as previous committees
bottom-line is that this first poll is meaningless
ranking 20-25 is even more meaningless
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Re: Initial Playoff Committee Rankings
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2018, 09:52:06 AM »
i get twisted myself when arranging things... it is a dead split between 'where i think they are' and 'where i think they'll finish' even in the stupid 'featured' article on the publisher... btw- i do those things (articles) in sole attempt to make the site an original publisher... if'n y'all want to present articles, by all means have at it... I'll publish them for you... 

anyway, back on topic.. 

BLUF: A lot can still happen. 

though Bama doesn't have the backing this season in terms of W/L of ranked teams with winning records, does anyone believe they aren't the act to beat?  this is the eye test- but it has to be at least equally the past several seasons too... 

likewise, Clemson is the closest to Bama in recent pedigree... aren't they?  it's kinda their's to lose, and there is no way this isn't based off of past season's contemplated while weighing.  everyone is high on them, but i see a team with lack of focus.  they want the big games, but don't often bring it on the lessor games.  this usually catches a team, and i think it will this season for clemson. 

except for a loss, LSU has THIS season's most impressive results insofar as winning over ranked opponents.  this will change soon enough. 

ND is the ultimate helmet school (results from former thread notwithstanding) benefiting from lackluster schedule and big contracts, and interest across the nation (not 'just' bound by region).  They 'did' beat UM- but anyone who watches this sport realizes UM has matured tremendously since, no?  Well, that argument can be partially applied to LSU too... And then there is UGA, who lost to LSU but hasn't truly struggled with anyone else who has argument to this position as well, rightfully so.  

LSU will lose, and either UGA or UK will lose, and either UGA/UK or Bama will lose, and the SEC equation will work itself out.  It's my opinion that the committee will do what they need to in effort to keep re-matches out- which puts either UM or ND at a disadvantage and opens the door for OU, Wazu, UCF, or WVU- which is something they would want as it rebounds the western sector of the country's interest.  

cliff notes: a lot could happen. :93:
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Re: Initial Playoff Committee Rankings
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2018, 10:06:27 AM »
For OSU/Michigan fans, the hope is:

1.  Winning out of course.
2.  ND slipping up at NW or with Syracuse/USC (possible)
3.  Alabama winning out (this may have implications in the actual playoff of course)
4.  Oklahoma losing another

I think then we get 1. Bama 2. Clemson 3. OSU/UM  4.  Who knows ... 

But the variations are so numerous at this point ....

I do think this affords a bit of insight into how the committee ranks teams.
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Re: Initial Playoff Committee Rankings
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2018, 10:21:02 AM »
If Bama loses to LSU and finishes 11-1 it will certainly create an interesting test of "eye test" vs SoS.  

Bama's OOC is flat out abysmal.  Their "marquee" OOC opponent was a Louisville team which is 0-5 in a weak ACC and 2-6 overall.  Their other three OOC opponents are an FCS team, a bad Sun Belt team, and a mediocre Sun Belt team.  Their two SEC-E opponents (TN and Mizzou) are a combined 1-8 in the SEC and 7-9 overall.  That isn't just bad, it is awful.  

Thus, Bama's only legitimate opponents will be their SEC-W brethren and (if they get there), their SECCG and post-season opponents.  
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Re: Initial Playoff Committee Rankings
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2018, 10:40:04 AM »
I think their only shot is losing a very close game in the CG and having plausible alternatives having 2 losses.

This presumes they lose one game and don't with the SEC of course.  If they are 12-1 and win the SEC, it's moot.
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