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Topic: Individual Player season All-Decade Teams Help

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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: Individual Player season All-Decade Teams Help
« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2018, 05:24:23 PM »
Schools from P5-type conferences of the era in question and independents of a certain quality.
So yes to the SWC.  Yes to 1991 independent Penn State, no to 1991 independent Tulane.
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Re: Individual Player season All-Decade Teams Help
« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2018, 05:25:34 PM »
Alberts is a good add, thanks.  Bruschi and Boulware were over 15 sacks, I think Rice was right at 15.  




Look up what Hamilton did in 1999 - he's sort of a happy medium between Wuerffel and Frazier.
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Re: Individual Player season All-Decade Teams Help
« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2018, 05:42:44 PM »
This doesn't have to do with Frazier, but here are the most efficiently-rated QB seasons in the 90s:
178.4  Wuerffel in '95 (FLA)
175.0  Hamilton in '99 (GT)
172.9  Collins in '94 (PSU)
171.1  Vick in '99 (VT)
170.6  Wuerffel in '96 (FLA)



1 - shows how great Wuerffel was, sure, but more amazingly,
2 - that 178.4 season is now the 20th-best season by a QB, including 11 seasons for P5 programs.


That's crazy.  
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Re: Individual Player season All-Decade Teams Help
« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2018, 06:22:54 PM »
obviously didn't include his bowl stats
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Re: Individual Player season All-Decade Teams Help
« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2018, 10:59:42 PM »
I don't like my 90s RBs, I want some diversity.  
Phillips, Dunbar, Williams, and Dayne.  I need a scatback like Dunn maybe.  Who else would be good?
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Re: Individual Player season All-Decade Teams Help
« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2018, 12:03:27 AM »
Also, if I have a rushing QB (like Frazier), then I only get 3 RBs.
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Re: Individual Player season All-Decade Teams Help
« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2018, 12:40:23 AM »
no Sooner RBs in the top 3 in the 80's????

I guess Herschel was great but not that great
Wishbone squads like OU rarely gave a guy the ball 25 times.  Between Patrick Collins, Spencer Tillman, Anthony Stafford to pick on one roster, I doubt any guy had a full load.  Dupree was a lone exception and of course Switzer went to the I formation briefly because of him, until he gained 100 lbs before the Fiesta Bowl (sidebar: WTF performance in bowl game history).  Heck, Rozier was a rare workhorse for Nebraska until Phillips in '94.

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Re: Individual Player season All-Decade Teams Help
« Reply #21 on: November 20, 2018, 10:01:15 AM »
I don't like my 90s RBs, I want some diversity.  
Phillips, Dunbar, Williams, and Dayne.  I need a scatback like Dunn maybe.  Who else would be good?
shaun alexander? faulk? hearst? eddie george? kijana carter?
some others from bama to consider:
lb/de derrick thomas (80s) - if stats for d were kept back then, he'd still have the ncaa record for career sacks and sacks in a season
lb keith mccants (80s) - was one of the biggest nfl busts of all time, but in college was a great lb
lb/de cornelius bennett (80s) - 3x AA, one of the best all time
c dwight stephenson (70s) - regarded as one of the best centers all time, bear bryant claimed best player he ever coached
lb woodrow lowe (70s) - 3x AA
og/ot john hannah (70s) - 2x AA one of the best linemen ever for bama
ot chris samuels (90s) - one of the few bright spots for bama in late 90's along with alexander
wr/returner david palmer (90s) - lightning in a bottle
db/returner javier arenas (00s) - at time of playing, was 1 shy of ncaa record for most punt return tds
db minkah fitzpatrick (10s) - arguably the best player in saban era
p jk scott (10s) - 2x AA
obviously not all of those will or should make the lists.
but thomas and bennett would be on mine for 80's, no question. 2 of the best all time, not just 80s.
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Re: Individual Player season All-Decade Teams Help
« Reply #22 on: November 20, 2018, 11:05:12 AM »
I’m still not sure what you are looking for exactly but I can give you a couple of WVU guys who had great statistical seasons at their positions.

In 1994 CB Aaron Beasley had 10 interceptions and returned two of them for touchdowns.

In 1996 LB Canute Curtis had 16.5 sacks.  Both were consensus AA those years.

And if is more about career numbers Beasley had 19 career picks and Curtis had 34.5 career sacks.

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Re: Individual Player season All-Decade Teams Help
« Reply #23 on: November 20, 2018, 11:28:53 AM »
shaun alexander? faulk? hearst? eddie george? kijana carter?
some others from bama to consider:
lb/de derrick thomas (80s) - if stats for d were kept back then, he'd still have the ncaa record for career sacks and sacks in a season
lb keith mccants (80s) - was one of the biggest nfl busts of all time, but in college was a great lb
lb/de cornelius bennett (80s) - 3x AA, one of the best all time
c dwight stephenson (70s) - regarded as one of the best centers all time, bear bryant claimed best player he ever coached
lb woodrow lowe (70s) - 3x AA
og/ot john hannah (70s) - 2x AA one of the best linemen ever for bama
ot chris samuels (90s) - one of the few bright spots for bama in late 90's along with alexander
wr/returner david palmer (90s) - lightning in a bottle
db/returner javier arenas (00s) - at time of playing, was 1 shy of ncaa record for most punt return tds
db minkah fitzpatrick (10s) - arguably the best player in saban era
p jk scott (10s) - 2x AA
obviously not all of those will or should make the lists.
but thomas and bennett would be on mine for 80's, no question. 2 of the best all time, not just 80s.
i forgot about the single season stipulation.
alexander - 99
faulk - 93
hearst - 92
george - 95
carter - 94
bama greats
thomas - 88 - 27 sacks that season (52 career)
mccants - 89
bennett - 84, 85, 86 - i'd pick 86 i guess, but he was AA each year
stephenson - 79
lowe - 74
hannah - 72
samuels - 99
palmer - 93
arenas - (db 09, pr 08)
fitzpatrick - 16
scott - 14 or 17 (14 better ave punt, but 17 fewer returns allowed)

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Re: Individual Player season All-Decade Teams Help
« Reply #24 on: November 20, 2018, 11:43:57 AM »
Looks like you haven't done the 00s yet, but Brian Calhoun in his one UW season (2005) had a heck of a year. He was over 2000 all-purpose yards, including over 1500 rushing, over 500 receiving, and 23 touchdowns. He accounted for over 40% of Wisconsin's offense. But for the knee injuries he likely would have been a solid NFL player.

While I'm homering it up in here and on the subject of transfers, Russell Wilson's 191.8 efficiency rating in 2011 was the record at the time (may still be?). Over 3000 yards passing, 33 TDs against only 4 picks.
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Re: Individual Player season All-Decade Teams Help
« Reply #25 on: November 20, 2018, 01:39:31 PM »
Yeah, any sack numbers pre-2005 is appreciated.  It's just for a single-season all-star team, by decade.  
I've started with the 90s.  There were a lot of 2000-yard seasons, but I also want a diverse team that people would like to play as.


Right now, the quartet of Ricky Williams, Ron Dayne, Lawrence Phillips, and Vaughn Dunbar, is what I have.  But I think if I changed some out, it would appeal to more people.  Ki-Jana Carter's 1994 season was amazing 7.8 ypc with that many carries!  But don't I want a RB who caught a lot of passes?  Which TE stands out?  


I thought about WV's Beasley, but didn't he also get beat a lot?  I have Woodson ('97) because he was so good, but he "only" had 7 int.  
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Re: Individual Player season All-Decade Teams Help
« Reply #26 on: November 20, 2018, 01:45:07 PM »
Yeah, any sack numbers pre-2005 is appreciated.  It's just for a single-season all-star team, by decade.  
I've started with the 90s.  There were a lot of 2000-yard seasons, but I also want a diverse team that people would like to play as.


Right now, the quartet of Ricky Williams, Ron Dayne, Lawrence Phillips, and Vaughn Dunbar, is what I have.  But I think if I changed some out, it would appeal to more people.  Ki-Jana Carter's 1994 season was amazing 7.8 ypc with that many carries!  But don't I want a RB who caught a lot of passes?  Which TE stands out?  


I thought about WV's Beasley, but didn't he also get beat a lot?  I have Woodson ('97) because he was so good, but he "only" had 7 int.  
Yeah, Beasley was a gambler.   He was a very good college corner but obviously no Woodson.

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Re: Individual Player season All-Decade Teams Help
« Reply #27 on: November 20, 2018, 05:12:54 PM »
Yeah, any sack numbers pre-2005 is appreciated.  It's just for a single-season all-star team, by decade.  
I've started with the 90s.  There were a lot of 2000-yard seasons, but I also want a diverse team that people would like to play as.


Right now, the quartet of Ricky Williams, Ron Dayne, Lawrence Phillips, and Vaughn Dunbar, is what I have.  But I think if I changed some out, it would appeal to more people.  Ki-Jana Carter's 1994 season was amazing 7.8 ypc with that many carries!  But don't I want a RB who caught a lot of passes?  Which TE stands out?  


I thought about WV's Beasley, but didn't he also get beat a lot?  I have Woodson ('97) because he was so good, but he "only" had 7 int.  
faulk caught 47 passes for 644 yds and 3 td in 93. with 1500+ yd and 21 td rushing.
alexander caught 25 for 325 and 4 td in 99.
hearst 22 for 325 and 2 td.

 

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