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« Reply #30506 on: April 13, 2024, 10:13:26 AM »
it's not just an issue in the US of A
Correct. People who want to kill will use any means to do so.

Guns
Cars
Knives
Pressure Cookers
Heavy blunt objects
And so on.
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« Reply #30507 on: April 13, 2024, 10:14:21 AM »
US expects Iran to carry out direct attack on Israel, sources say, as Biden warns ‘don’t’ | CNN Politics

The US expects that Iran will carry out strikes against multiple targets inside Israel in the coming days and is prepared to help intercept any weapons launched at its ally, sources tell CNN, as the Biden administration is on high alert for what could be the eruption of a significantly volatile and unpredictable period in the Middle East.

President Joe Biden on Friday predicted that Iran’s attacks were coming “sooner than later” and sought to once again issue a stern public warning, saying that his message to Tehran was simply: “Don’t.”

The beginning of a state-on-state conflict between Iran and Israel would mark a serious escalation in the region – a scenario that the US has hoped to avoid since the start of the Israel-Hamas war in October.

As of late Friday, the US believed that Iranian proxies could also be involved in the forthcoming attacks, according to a senior administration official and a source familiar with the intelligence, and that targets would likely be both inside Israel and around the region. The US’ readiness to intercept weapons launched at Israel marked a clear indication of the level of ongoing cooperation between the two militaries.



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« Reply #30508 on: April 13, 2024, 10:26:19 AM »
Knife reform needed.
He killed 6 people.  How many more if he'd had a gun?  How many times more?
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« Reply #30509 on: April 13, 2024, 10:35:41 AM »
Indeed, a gun generally affords an individual a greater opportunity to kill and maim more than most other weapons, I think this is accepted.

The question is what could be done about it.  Adopt European type restrictions?  I don't view that as practicable.


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« Reply #30510 on: April 13, 2024, 11:54:36 AM »
He killed 6 people.  How many more if he'd had a gun?  How many times more?
Depends on if he knew how shoot it, and what kind it was. A handgun generally takes no more than 6-8 bullets and is more difficult to shoot than a rifle. Getting a rifle into a mall is not as easy as a handgun, of course.

Most of these people do NOT know how to shoot.

I'm glad I DO know how.
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« Reply #30511 on: April 13, 2024, 11:55:20 AM »
US expects Iran to carry out direct attack on Israel, sources say, as Biden warns ‘don’t’ | CNN Politics

The US expects that Iran will carry out strikes against multiple targets inside Israel in the coming days and is prepared to help intercept any weapons launched at its ally, sources tell CNN, as the Biden administration is on high alert for what could be the eruption of a significantly volatile and unpredictable period in the Middle East.

President Joe Biden on Friday predicted that Iran’s attacks were coming “sooner than later” and sought to once again issue a stern public warning, saying that his message to Tehran was simply: “Don’t.”

The beginning of a state-on-state conflict between Iran and Israel would mark a serious escalation in the region – a scenario that the US has hoped to avoid since the start of the Israel-Hamas war in October.

As of late Friday, the US believed that Iranian proxies could also be involved in the forthcoming attacks, according to a senior administration official and a source familiar with the intelligence, and that targets would likely be both inside Israel and around the region. The US’ readiness to intercept weapons launched at Israel marked a clear indication of the level of ongoing cooperation between the two militaries.



I have a very bad feeling about this situation.
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« Reply #30512 on: April 13, 2024, 12:01:06 PM »
I don't have any feeling one way or the other, and obviously no inside knowledge or clever perceptions.  I do think it will be tough for Iran to attack Israel directly with any effectiveness, and they might realize such an attack would cause them more problems than it solved.  So, my own GUESS is they strike at some Israeli diplomatic facility somewhere, do some damage, claim victory, and quit.  Maybe that is more hope than reality.

But it would be a quid pro quo, mostly, give Iran cover, and then Israel would feel no special need to counter.

I read these accounts of some major Iranian missile strike on Israel, and I'm not sure that is likely, or feasible to much degree.

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« Reply #30513 on: April 13, 2024, 12:01:48 PM »
Joe said, "don't"
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« Reply #30514 on: April 13, 2024, 12:03:01 PM »
Could turn Iran into another Gaza
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« Reply #30515 on: April 13, 2024, 12:10:09 PM »
I keep looking at maps, and distances, and whatever known weapons each side may have.  It's about a thousand miles from Tehran to Tel Aviv, a distance that is greater than the effective range of aircraft on either side.  And you're looking at a transit of Iraq/Jordan/Saudi Arabia somehow.  This wouldn't be an issue for missiles in general, though the range is an issue along with payload.  Even a 1,000 kg warhead won't do all that much damage to a country.  Is either side likely to launch hundreds of them at the other?  Do WMDs come into play?  


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« Reply #30516 on: April 13, 2024, 12:10:58 PM »
Could turn Iran into another Gaza
And their neighbors wouldn't mind.
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« Reply #30517 on: April 13, 2024, 04:39:09 PM »
So a drone attack?

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« Reply #30518 on: April 13, 2024, 05:51:42 PM »
Depends on if he knew how shoot it, and what kind it was. A handgun generally takes no more than 6-8 bullets and is more difficult to shoot than a rifle. Getting a rifle into a mall is not as easy as a handgun, of course.

Most of these people do NOT know how to shoot.

I'm glad I DO know how.
Avoids the question and makes it about yourself.
Awesome.
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« Reply #30519 on: April 13, 2024, 05:53:17 PM »
So a drone attack?
100+ drones/missiles in the "first wave" of attack.

This is MUCH better than crippling Iran.  Let them do whatever they want.  
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