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FearlessF

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« Reply #27594 on: November 01, 2023, 03:21:27 PM »
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« Reply #27595 on: November 01, 2023, 03:48:55 PM »
well, obviously there will be some shrinkage while aging
I assume wet aging retains more water weight, not certain

I've done wet aging in my fridge
I leave the dry aging to folks with walk in lockers
Yeah, wet aging retains pretty much the entirety of the weight. I've really only done wet aging with whole packer brisket, because it's rare that I get full cryo packages with most other cuts of beef. 

I did use the Umai dry aging bags as an experiment once. I thought it worked "fine", and didn't kill anyone. But I don't think I was working with a high enough quality cut of beef to feel like I ended up with a game-changer. 

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« Reply #27596 on: November 01, 2023, 04:10:21 PM »
Isn't the point of the aging to concentrate the beef flavor, which is what happens when the water dissipates, during the dry aging process?

So if wet aging doesn't shrink the product and concentrate the flavor, then what is its purpose?

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« Reply #27597 on: November 01, 2023, 04:18:32 PM »
the mold, enzymes, stuff helps breakdown tissues and tenderize the meat as well

kinda like low temp smokin
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« Reply #27598 on: November 01, 2023, 05:10:44 PM »
Yep. I don't think wet-aging is nearly as impactful to the product as dry-aging. But it can help with things like tenderness, which is why understand a lot of BBQ cooks like to wet-age brisket for a few weeks. 

Only thing is that it has to be in the original cryo or you risk spoilage. 

Question... Has anyone ever tried the faux dry aging trick with fish sauce? I haven't yet but have been curious... 

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« Reply #27599 on: November 01, 2023, 05:19:02 PM »
the mold, enzymes, stuff helps breakdown tissues and tenderize the meat as well

kinda like low temp smokin
So mold instead of smoke? - stay on the back 9 with your bud fat and let 94 tend the fire
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« Reply #27600 on: November 01, 2023, 05:20:11 PM »
Question... Has anyone ever tried the faux dry aging trick with fish sauce? I haven't yet but have been curious...
Shooting for surf and turf taking that short cut.Sounds like a good way to ruin a Ribeye
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« Reply #27601 on: November 01, 2023, 05:24:49 PM »
I bet that fish sauce would be pretty stellar. Lots of flavor. An Oscar topping tips it in.
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« Reply #27602 on: November 01, 2023, 05:28:49 PM »
I guess maybe at some point I should try it. 

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« Reply #27603 on: November 01, 2023, 05:37:46 PM »
Expensive wine is wasted on me.  I can't tell the difference between a $10 bottle of wine and a $200 bottle

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« Reply #27604 on: November 01, 2023, 05:58:54 PM »
Pitmasters have been NOT wet aging briskets for generations and turned out delicious product.  I'm not sold on it.  

But lots of the modern pitmasters seem to believe in it.  To each his own.

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« Reply #27605 on: November 01, 2023, 06:25:07 PM »
Expensive wine is wasted on me.  I can't tell the difference between a $10 bottle of wine and a $200 bottle
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« Reply #27606 on: November 01, 2023, 06:32:38 PM »
Expensive wine is wasted on me.  I can't tell the difference between a $10 bottle of wine and a $200 bottle
I hear this a lot from folks who usually have never had a $200 bottle.  I used to do a blind tasting with wines ranging from $5 ti $100 with folks.  Many were surprised at how good the latter wine was.  It really doesn't require some unusual experience or palette to discriminate.

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« Reply #27607 on: November 01, 2023, 06:49:43 PM »
Expensive wine is wasted on me.  I can't tell the difference between a $10 bottle of wine and a $200 bottle
I hear this a lot from folks who usually have never had a $200 bottle.  I used to do a blind tasting with wines ranging from $5 ti $100 with folks.  Many were surprised at how good the latter wine was.  It really doesn't require some unusual experience or palette to discriminate.
I've quite often found that price and whether or not I like a wine don't correlate very well. I like what I like. Sometimes I find a $25 bottle that I love.

Back in the old days I went to Napa to Beringer, and did their specialty tasting. I was a big fan of their Knights Valley Cab at the time (not sure if they still make this, it was 2001-02 timeframe) at about $25. The specialty tasting were their ~$100/bottle wines. They were all delicious, but I didn't like them more than the Knights Valley. And they weren't $75/bottle better, at least to my palate. 

If I like a wine enough, I won't let a $60-80 price tag scare me off. But as I've said, there are wines that I like and would buy at a $20-40 price point, but that I don't like enough for that higher price point. 

I find wine pricing isn't always about quality as much as it's about the production capacity of a winery. When I go tasting, it's completely common to hit small wineries that might have a specific wine listed on their tasting sheet with a total production of 1000 cases. You're not getting that wine for $19.99. They didn't make enough to sell it that cheap. So then you have to decide whether it's worth it at say $50 vs a higher production winery that CAN sell the same varietal for $19.99. Those higher-production wines can be very, very good, but they're often homogenized because of the scale and where they must get their grapes. Sometimes the unique flavor of a wine that is more local and has growing conditions for the grapes that are expressed in the final product are worth it. 

But I never assume I'm going to enjoy a $50 bottle more than I'll enjoy a $20 bottle based on the sticker price. The only difference is that if I find that $50 bottle that I like, I'll buy a couple bottles. If I find a $20 bottle that I enjoy just as much, I'll buy a case lol...

 

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