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« Reply #25844 on: August 11, 2023, 05:21:11 PM »
I've been impressed for decades
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« Reply #25845 on: August 11, 2023, 05:22:06 PM »
The differences between races at the same income are nowhere near as large as the differences between income brackets within the races so I think that most of it is simply because a higher percentage of the black community is in the lower income brackets. 
agreed, I don't think it's a race issue
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« Reply #25846 on: August 11, 2023, 06:25:01 PM »
agreed, I don't think it's a race issue

Right, it's only a race issue insofar as minorities are overrepresented in the lower economic classes, as medina points out.

BUT, that doesn't mean you can't address it through a racial approach.  There are pro-minority groups that already have the means and an audience.  Someone like the NAACP could assert itself in promoting the merits of the two-parent family, for example.

Ultimately I think we're already so far down this road then I'm not sure there's any way to reverse it.  Maybe we can slow it down.  

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« Reply #25847 on: August 11, 2023, 06:29:17 PM »
maybe not anyway to reverse it in our lifetime, but slowing it down is the first step

similar to Carbon emissions 
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« Reply #25848 on: August 12, 2023, 07:54:39 AM »
Not sure if we covered this
https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-crushed-death-falling-wheels-114904358.html

An Italian man has been crushed to death under thousands of vast wheels of a Parmesan-style hard cheese, firefighters said Monday.
Giacomo Chiapparini, 74, was buried under the cheeses, each of which weighed almost 90 pounds, when a shelf broke in his warehouse in the northern Lombardy region on Sunday, creating a domino effect that brought down thousands of wheels, firefighter Antonio Dusi from Bergamo told AFP.
Rescuers "had to move the cheeses and the shelves by hand," Dusi said, adding that it "took about 12 hours" to finally find Chiapparini.


Suburbia:Where they tear out the trees & then name streets after them.

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« Reply #25849 on: August 12, 2023, 08:53:48 AM »
That's a lot of cheese
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« Reply #25850 on: August 12, 2023, 11:17:34 AM »
That's a lot of cheese
That's not the worst of it.

In order to free him they had to . . .

Cut the cheese 🧀 

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« Reply #25851 on: August 12, 2023, 02:37:11 PM »


For thousands of years the "sinfulness" of non-marital sex helped to minimize single-parent households in sucessful societies all over the globe.  Even if the "sinfulness" isn't real, there are still detrimental outcomes that we haven't come up with an alternative method to minimize.
I appreciate the post, but I think you're giving ancient societies WAAAYYYYYY too much credit here.  Like absurdly too much.
First of all, prior to 100-150 years ago, women didn't decide anything.  About anything.  Ever. 
Men decided if they were going to be a couple or not.  And men, in this specific example, had no accountability, either.  The woman was saddled with the pregnancy.  If they both survived, the woman was saddled with the child.  And as a single mother, the woman was literally shunned and cast out of the family/village. 
Now, you could be suggesting that the culture came up with the witch in the forest religious story of judgement to dissuade both sides from producing this result, but there's a problem there.......men want to fuck and everyone knows we want to and will.
Insert the gender divide in islam to this day.

No one wants to shun their daughter or sister or whoever.  But that single mother may have begged and pleaded to be part of a couple.  She may have been duped beforehand by the unethical man.  She may be great until opening her mouth to talk and driven him away.  But none of that matters.  Thee man does and always has dictated whether or not a coupling occurred.  He may act aloof and drive her away, or lazy, aggressive, or may just move along and his infidelity would do it.  But it's his actions/inactions whether intentional or not that dictate the coupling.

Second, human history didn't exactly live in a single-family home.  Family groups grew into villages, and everyone was family or like family, so a single mother's child was raised by a group.  It was less of a problem back then.  This is mostly a last-50-years-American problem.  A luxury of a problem, if you will.
Everywhere else, they just go with it.  Whether it's sad, unfortunate, or banal, no matter.  They just move on about their lives.  That's all they can do.  But they're not basically required to have a full-time job to pay for an extra mouth to feed AND child care, when a tiny apartment costs 50% plus of her income.  At least back in the 80s, she could afford it.  No longer.

And if religion is strictly just some lesson to be learned, the lesson can be taught without the avalanche of baggage that comes with a god.
It's 2023.
This 2000 year old ball-and-chain needs to be released.  ALL of its positives can be recreated without ANY of its minuses.









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« Reply #25852 on: August 12, 2023, 02:41:01 PM »
I often listen to podcasts and watch videos discussing atheism/religion and one thing often said by believers is how without religion, they fear they'd go around murdering and stealing and pillaging.  As if their belief in a god is the only thing that prevents it.
They simply can't fathom acting ethically without a god threatening them.
Do you know what would happen if they stopped believing?  Nothing.
They'd rape and murder and pillage just as much as they do now.  Not at all.  They simply lack self-confidence in their own self-control.  It's kind of funny.  Their fear is worse than the potential reality.

But that's kind of off-topic, sorry.
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« Reply #25853 on: August 13, 2023, 10:00:48 AM »
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« Reply #25854 on: August 13, 2023, 10:12:54 AM »
no idear who that is but he must have some $$$
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« Reply #25855 on: August 13, 2023, 10:21:00 AM »
He has been in the industry for years and contributed as an actor, writer, director, as well as a producer, but is mostly adored for his Madea franchise. According to multiple sources, Tyler Perry's net worth in 2023 is estimated at around $1 billion USD through his thriving career in the entertainment industry.


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« Reply #25856 on: August 13, 2023, 11:02:23 AM »
This 2000 year old ball-and-chain needs to be released.  ALL of its positives can be recreated without ANY of its minuses.
To me this sounds like the typical leftist refrain that Communism will work . . .
next time. 

Much like Communism, Atheism is theoretically great. I think that is why both are so popular among academics. Academically/Theoretically both make perfect sense. Obviously the reality hasn't been such a great experience. 

In the 19th Century Freud warned that due to atheism, the 20th would see some terrible things. Well Communists killed hundreds of millions. The somewhat less militantly atheistic Nazis couldn't match that but they did their best.

On a more micro level for literally thousands of years religion helped to minimize one-parent families. Now we have less religion and more one-parent families. 

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« Reply #25857 on: August 13, 2023, 11:09:06 AM »
The European wars in history were mostly between "Christian" nations fighting each other, of course with lower overall death rates for various reasons.  

And obviously religious beliefs existed long before 2,000 years ago.  

 

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