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« Reply #25494 on: July 21, 2023, 10:35:47 AM »
The authorities cannot legally take someone off the streets simply because they are very clearly mentally ill UNLESS they pose a threat to themselves or others.

Crazy people
Drug addicted people
Folks struggling to get enough money for rent and food
Probably a few folks who enjoy the lifestyle, like the old Hobboes

The third category can be helped, and generally do get help.

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« Reply #25495 on: July 21, 2023, 10:38:59 AM »
Arizona's problem, imho, is the influx of Californians who have sold their million dollar houses which would have been a 350K house pre influx, driving housing prices for the equivalent house to $500K.  Prices people out of the housing market and into the rental market. So the demand for rental is increasing causing an increase in pricing.  This increase causing those who can't afford it to either team up or move or be homeless.

It really is a vicious cycle with no end in sight unless California does something about the reason they people are fleeing.
Hey now, they've done a good job of changing Arizona!


Probably too late. The train has left the station.
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« Reply #25496 on: July 21, 2023, 10:46:45 AM »
It really is a vicious cycle with no end in sight unless California does something about the reason they people are fleeing.
Nobody lives here anymore. It's too crowded. 

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« Reply #25497 on: July 21, 2023, 11:42:15 AM »
Nobody lives here anymore. It's too crowded.
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« Reply #25498 on: July 21, 2023, 01:48:52 PM »
I was amazed when I saw people starting to rent shared bedrooms.  
It's alarming.  
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« Reply #25499 on: July 21, 2023, 01:54:09 PM »
I was amazed when I saw people starting to rent shared bedrooms. 
It's alarming. 
Very.  
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« Reply #25500 on: July 21, 2023, 07:45:55 PM »
I was amazed when I saw people starting to rent shared bedrooms. 
It's alarming. 
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/elites-own-nothing-take-away

check this out. ( don’t be fooled by the source)

To high degree Fro- it supports your original statement.  This has been going on for a while now and is only increasing. I have been seeing it daily for roughly 2 years.   
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« Reply #25501 on: July 21, 2023, 09:15:43 PM »
Many apartments no longer have an office.  They have a phone number of the company with hundreds? of properties across the country.
No one to give you a quick price quote or ask questions important to you, just a shut-down office and that phone number.

Every single dip in housing prices = gobbled up by companies

The wealthy/corporations take advantage of every opportunity while the masses don't even know there's an opportunity (and the ones who do have no way of taking advantage). 

Actions don't have to be illegal to be unethical.  And even when you have the right to do something doesn't mean you should.  I don't even fault the wealthy really, but the system in place promotes a snowball effect in wealth.  
I could be wrong, but I feel like turning $1 million into $10 million used to be difficult and risky, but nowadays, it always seems inevitable.
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« Reply #25502 on: July 21, 2023, 09:27:31 PM »
Many apartments no longer have an office.  They have a phone number of the company with hundreds? of properties across the country.
No one to give you a quick price quote or ask questions important to you, just a shut-down office and that phone number.

Every single dip in housing prices = gobbled up by companies

The wealthy/corporations take advantage of every opportunity while the masses don't even know there's an opportunity (and the ones who do have no way of taking advantage). 

Actions don't have to be illegal to be unethical.  And even when you have the right to do something doesn't mean you should. I don't even fault the wealthy really, but the system in place promotes a snowball effect in wealth. 
I could be wrong, but I feel like turning $1 million into $10 million used to be difficult and risky, but nowadays, it always seems inevitable.
Yes. It’s like a snowball down hill. Apartments and houses. 

And they can go in with cash and bypass the mortgage process and leave a qualified consumer in the dust.  It’s happening a lot now.
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« Reply #25503 on: July 22, 2023, 12:18:44 AM »
Arizona's problem, imho, is the influx of Californians who have sold their million dollar houses which would have been a 350K house pre influx, driving housing prices for the equivalent house to $500K.  Prices people out of the housing market and into the rental market. So the demand for rental is increasing causing an increase in pricing.  This increase causing those who can't afford it to either team up or move or be homeless.

It really is a vicious cycle with no end in sight unless California does something about the reason they people are fleeing.
What you have described is basic capitalism in action. People leave expensive places for cheaper places. Fallout happens.

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« Reply #25504 on: July 22, 2023, 12:24:19 AM »
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/elites-own-nothing-take-away

check this out. ( don’t be fooled by the source)

To high degree Fro- it supports your original statement.  This has been going on for a while now and is only increasing. I have been seeing it daily for roughly 2 years. 
The blaming of “elites” feels like a bit of a straw man. “Elites” are illusory. A convenient boogie man of sorts.

This seems to blame hedge funds for making unfortunately shrewd investments, because we’ve kind of reached the logical end of “home as asset” theory. Someone with more resources and expertise will leverage that efficiently. 

It’s what you’d call an externality of an efficient market.

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« Reply #25505 on: July 22, 2023, 12:30:35 AM »
That's what the mental institutions were for, but that was inhumane.

As if homelessness is humane.

Solutions?
Hmmm. If we used the mental institution framework, one solution would be building a lot of basically free housing.

There’s a sort of paradox with homelessness. Most of it is the kind you don’t see on the street, and that sort is far easier to solve. The issue with the mental hospitals is they made a mockery of very real rights (and a lot were unfit for habitation with staff issues).

In the end, a certain level of homelessness is just an end result of rights. There’s a high, high bar to force people into treatment they don’t want. And until they do something bad, they still have rights.

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« Reply #25506 on: July 22, 2023, 12:59:07 AM »
That's what the  were for, but that was inhumane.

As if homelessness is humane.

Solutions?
Suburbia:Where they tear out the trees & then name streets after them.

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« Reply #25507 on: July 22, 2023, 01:00:43 AM »
That's what the mental institutions fan forums are for, but that was inhumane.

Solutions?
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Suburbia:Where they tear out the trees & then name streets after them.

 

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