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bayareabadger

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« Reply #22974 on: April 25, 2023, 03:00:32 PM »
What time does The View come on?
When you and other employed people are working. 

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« Reply #22975 on: April 25, 2023, 03:01:38 PM »
I don't watch TC at all except occasional You Tube clips of it.  As I said, I personally view him as an opportunist, hypocrite, and liar.  But to each his own.


That’s funny. That is not an uncommon view.

The irony is that he got so popular by exposing the lies of politicians- in both parties, and by asking tough questions nobody else in the establishment  wanted asked,

like nearly all of us have acknowledged in here at one time or another- we don’t trust most in politics or media because they are “ opportunist, hypocritites, and liars”

He made it his mission to expose that.  Ironic.
And most of those cheering his departure are the ones he had exposed. 
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« Reply #22976 on: April 25, 2023, 03:02:45 PM »
I think he made it his mission to attract a large audience using deception and clever editing.

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« Reply #22977 on: April 25, 2023, 03:04:48 PM »
I think he made it his mission to attract a large audience using deception and clever editing.
careful there CD your color is showing
They won't let me give blood anymore. The burnt orange color scares the hell out of the doctors.

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« Reply #22978 on: April 25, 2023, 03:07:43 PM »
I think he made it his mission to attract a large audience using deception and clever editing.
He exposed clever editing of others more often than not, and asked questions that exposed others deception. 

you know when a guy shows long detailed video that was previously kept hidden from the public, and asks consumers to come to their own conclusion- and those who kept it hidden in the first place are the ones going Apoplectic- he is on to something. 
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« Reply #22979 on: April 25, 2023, 03:09:13 PM »
Apparently Tucker and Lemon hired the same attorney to handle their firings.  Makes sense, they are probably friends behind the scenes.  Both opportunists, who just feed their sheep whatever they want to hear.  I'm sure if you told them they'd have to flip parties to make money, they both would.

For those cheering and/or lamenting either.  They'll just replace them with the same empty suit, who will continue the same pandering, but without a large enough platform to become controversial...until they do

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« Reply #22980 on: April 25, 2023, 03:15:44 PM »
Apparently Tucker and Lemon hired the same attorney to handle their firings.  Makes sense, they are probably friends behind the scenes.  Both opportunists, who just feed their sheep whatever they want to hear.  I'm sure if you told them they'd have to flip parties to make money, they both would.

For those cheering and/or lamenting either.  They'll just replace them with the same empty suit, who will continue the same pandering, but without a large enough platform to become controversial...until they do
I hope they do replace him. He was (TC) a jackass but he was the ONLY one asking people to think about the shit we are all being fed, instead of just eating it. All the other stuffed suits are redundant.  
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« Reply #22981 on: April 25, 2023, 03:20:03 PM »
Hey Ive got an idea why dont Lemon and TC just switch networks and see where the fans go
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« Reply #22982 on: April 25, 2023, 03:21:28 PM »
If I was CNN Id be on the horn to TC offering him mega bucks to come there
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« Reply #22983 on: April 25, 2023, 03:26:18 PM »
Hey Ive got an idea why dont Lemon and TC just switch networks and see where the fans go
Hell, up until 10ish years ago that wasn't a crazy idea.

First came to know Tucker as the brilliant R who could go toe to toe with who I think is a brilliant D debater (James Carville) on CNN.  Back when that was their one opinion show.

Even Sean Hannity rose to fame as a similar style Hannity and Combs show on Fox

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« Reply #22984 on: April 25, 2023, 03:28:59 PM »
guys start out as something

then when full of fame, they many times sell out to the $$$
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« Reply #22985 on: April 25, 2023, 03:33:49 PM »
guys start out as something

then when full of fame, they many times sell out to the $$$
Yep.  Hell to take it out of politics, look who is still on the air at ESPN.  The loudest, most hot take, insufferable personalities.  That sells.  Particularly when people don't sit down and watch Sportscenter, but Stephen A. Smith might be trending on Twitter because of some aggressive, horrible take.  You get clicks.  Same with cable news.  I don't watch any of it, but I see it when one of them is trending on Twitter for some nutty rant

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« Reply #22986 on: April 25, 2023, 03:37:55 PM »
I disagree with him on A LOT of things...especially immigration.
This is most likely because you've made the mistake of believing the corporate media, DNC, and RNC.

I'll concede that there are plenty of studies indicating that immigration is great for us economically but you need to concede that there is a STRONG pull for those studies. Academics who "prove" that immigration is good for us get grants, book deals, invites to national news shows, etc. Any academic whose studies prove the opposite gets called racist and effectively blacklisted.

The studies "proving" that immigration is a net positive economically are the best BS money can buy and there is a LOT of money involved.

What opened my eyes:
Here in Medina, Ohio our local courts pay a not insignificant amount of money EVERY month for translators for indigent non-english-speaking criminal defendants. When I learned that, I was shocked because this is a relatively affluent community with a miniscule immigrant population.

Per world population review, Ohio's percentage of foreign born population is only 5%, 14th lowest among the 50 states and by far the lowest among populous states.

Then, per Cleveland.com (Plain Dealer website), Medina City and County have miniscule foreign born populations of just 2.3% and 2.8% respectively.

If Medina, with our miniscule immigrant population has so much crime committed by non-english-speaking indigent criminals that they need translators EVERY month then how bad is the problem nationally? To ask the question is to know the answer, the problem is massive.

Beyond crime, there are the other economic impacts. Since our country operates at a significant budget deficit it is plainly obvious that all of those below the average are paying less in taxes than they are receiving in services. Thus, any immigrant earning below the national average is a net drain on economic resources.

The other catastrophic economic impact is on Social Security and Medicare. Those born in the US pay into both out of every paycheck they receive from their first McDonald's paycheck at age 14 to their last WalMart greeter paycheck in retirement. Even at that, both systems are comically underfunded so an immigrant who arrives after part of their working life has already passed will be a drain on Social Security and Medicare as well, unless they make a LOT of money.

Finally competition:
While our country has labor shortages in certain professions, we most certainly do NOT have a shortage of unskilled labor. Letting in Doctors, Professors, Engineers, and Programmers is one thing (and might actually be a net economic positive) but letting in unskilled laborers only increases the competition for already scarce jobs and dramatically increases income inequality.

Back when he actually cared about American Workers, Bernie Sanders called Open Borders a "Koch Brothers idea" because it makes everybody in America
Bernie Sanders called Open Borders a "Koch Brothers idea" because it makes everybody in America poorer.

Open borders are great, at least temporarily, for the Ultra-Wealthy. They get cheaper servants and employees and they get to push the externalities off on the rest of us.

For the upper middle class, massive immigration is at best a wash. They get somewhat cheaper services but their taxes and/or the government deficits go up.

For the great majority, massive immigration is a slow-motion catastrophe.

Here is a typical on-narrative corporate media article where they explan that SoCal Construction work went from a great job in 1980* to a crappy one in 2017 (date of publication). They then blame lack of union representation while sticking their fingers in their ears and ignoring WHY those workers don't have Unions anymore.

Unions only succeed if the laborers can't be easily replaced. In that case striking workers have to be given concessions to keep them around. When there are PLENTY of replacement workers available the high-pay Union outfits get undercut by low-wage outfits.

*In the article they state that the construction workforce in 1980 was about 2/3 White and later they have a graph that says it was about 24% Hispanic. They don't mention anyone else or explain the other ~10% but it was probably mostly Black with a few Asians. Today it is ~70% Hispanic and they don't tell us the makeup of the other ~30%.

Gee, I wonder where all the high paid White and Black construction workers went.

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Re: In other news ...
« Reply #22987 on: April 25, 2023, 03:39:04 PM »

Even Sean Hannity rose to fame as a similar style Hannity and Combs show on Fox
Eh. Fox has a history of putting feckless Ds on those shows. 

Combs couldn't argue his way out of a paper bag. He was up there just to make the "liberal" side look bad. 

They did the same thing with the show The Five, with Bob Beckel being their liberal punching bag who was just a joke. 

It's not a real "debate" show if you basically have an adult arguing against the equivalent of a 12 year old. 

 

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