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Re: In other news ...
« Reply #22723 on: April 19, 2023, 07:10:59 PM »
We're discussing how fentanyl gets into the US, not illegals.
Oh.  I didn’t know the Fentanyl was crossing the border on it’s own.    :banghead:
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« Reply #22724 on: April 19, 2023, 07:12:41 PM »
Greg Abbott’s new border security plan spurs worries about local economy | The Texas Tribune
considering this article is a year old there must not have been too much a problem cause the plan has been in action for a year
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« Reply #22725 on: April 19, 2023, 07:19:32 PM »
Sure, and they really aren't doing much at all.  It's a fig leaf.  Maybe they check a few trucks a day somewhere.  Maybe not even that.

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« Reply #22726 on: April 19, 2023, 07:20:47 PM »
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« Reply #22727 on: April 19, 2023, 07:21:51 PM »
Sure, and they really aren't doing much at all.  It's a fig leaf.  Maybe they check a few trucks a day somewhere.  Maybe not even that.
and the drug cartel knows this
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« Reply #22728 on: April 19, 2023, 07:27:51 PM »
Just curious. Why do you keep talking about vehicles. All of the data suggests that the overwhelming majority of illegal border crossings including those who make it in those who are apprehended are on foot and not at ports of entry.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdca/pr/fentanyl-seizures-border-continue-spike-making-san-diego-national-epicenter-fentanyl

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NEWS RELEASE SUMMARY – August 12, 2022
SAN DIEGO – More deadly fentanyl is being seized by border officials in San Diego and Imperial counties than at any of the nation’s 300-plus ports of entry, making this federal district an epicenter for fentanyl trafficking into the United States.

In the first nine months of FY 2022 (October through June), U.S. Customs and Border Protection law enforcement agencies in San Diego and Imperial counties (CBP Field Operations and Border Patrol) seized 5,091 pounds of fentanyl – which amounts to about 60 percent of the 8,425 pounds of fentanyl seized around the entire country. Click here for CBP and Border Patrol statistics. 

These fentanyl seizures in San Diego by CBP include land ports of entry at San Ysidro, Otay Mesa, Tecate, Andrade and Calexico. Seizures by Border Patrol stations within the San Diego Sector include Imperial Beach, Chula Vista, Brown Field, El Cajon, Campo, Boulevard, San Clemente and Murietta.  In addition, seizures by the Border Patrol in the Imperial Valley include El Centro and Calexico.

Mexican cartels are increasingly manufacturing fentanyl for distribution and sale in the United States Precursors are imported from China and other countries and then pressed into pills, powder or mixed into other drugs at massive, industrial-scale labs.

Undocumented immigrants who want to come and work might brave land crossing away from land ports of entry. But it's hard to carry 100# of fentanyl AND traverse a desert land crossing in the wilderness. So if you're talking about drug trafficking, you probably want larger hauls, requiring vehicles. 

BTW those patrol stations I bolded are inland. I have to go through the San Clemente checkpoint every time I come north from San Diego to Orange County. Only rarely is that checkpoint actually staffed and stopping people from rolling through at 80 mph. And in every time that checkpoint has been staffed and looking at drivers, I (a while middle-aged male) am always waved through without so much as them wanting me to roll down my window. 

So there are TONS of ways to fly under the radar. Not to say that we should take much from fiction, but if Bryan Cranston / Walter White was driving through that checkpoint, he'd absolutely NEVER get stopped. 


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« Reply #22729 on: April 19, 2023, 07:53:12 PM »
https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdca/pr/fentanyl-seizures-border-continue-spike-making-san-diego-national-epicenter-fentanyl

Undocumented immigrants who want to come and work might brave land crossing away from land ports of entry. But it's hard to carry 100# of fentanyl AND traverse a desert land crossing in the wilderness. So if you're talking about drug trafficking, you probably want larger hauls, requiring vehicles.

BTW those patrol stations I bolded are inland. I have to go through the San Clemente checkpoint every time I come north from San Diego to Orange County. Only rarely is that checkpoint actually staffed and stopping people from rolling through at 80 mph. And in every time that checkpoint has been staffed and looking at drivers, I (a while middle-aged male) am always waved through without so much as them wanting me to roll down my window.

So there are TONS of ways to fly under the radar. Not to say that we should take much from fiction, but if Bryan Cranston / Walter White was driving through that checkpoint, he'd absolutely NEVER get stopped.


This is why we have to strengthen security and take away their pot of gold

we wont be 100% successful but if we make it much harder for them they will go some place else

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« Reply #22730 on: April 19, 2023, 08:37:54 PM »
yes deterrents are better than the alternative
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« Reply #22731 on: April 19, 2023, 10:20:52 PM »
I would get Mexico on board with drug enforcement by threatening to cut commerce

Increase border enforcement personnel

reduce the flow of illegals by sending them back to their country
word would get out and there would be fewer attempts

quit doing catch and release

random checks on all traffic



Reminds me, there are border patrol checkpoints on your way north and east into Texas, traveling up out of the towns of Terlingua and Lajitas, near Big Bend National Park.  I took the family and RV there for Spring Break and, on our way back, we passed through the mandatory checkpoint.  I was towing my RV, so anticipated there might be some extra questioning.  The border guard asked me how many people in the vehicle, I responded four, she asked how many were US citizens, I responded "all of us," then real quick she asked how many people in the RV?  I smiled and said "Zero" and she chuckled, and waved me on through.

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« Reply #22732 on: April 19, 2023, 11:19:08 PM »
Under the catagory of the stupidest thing I ever did

One night in my Jr year at UT I and three of my buds decided we were going to drive to Mexico

Nuevo Laredo was the destination and was 240 miles in my volkswagen bug

So us 4 guys piled in the bug and off we went

When we got to the border we were waved through with no hassle

After sitting in a bar for 3 hours we decided to go back to Austin

It never dawned on me how suspicious this looked to customs

When we got to the check point we were told to park off to the side which I did

They asked us to get out of the car and a German Shepherd proceeded to sniff all four of us from head to toe

They then told us to have a seat while the dog and 3 guys proceeded to search the bug

This scared the holly crap out of me

I knew we didnt have any drugs or alcohol but you just never know if they might plant something

finally the head guy comes over and says

you drove all the way from Austin stay a few hours and you cross back over with nothing

I said yes sir

He looks at me and says youre free to go

which we did very quickly

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« Reply #22733 on: April 20, 2023, 12:24:29 AM »
Under the catagory of the stupidest thing I ever did


Ohhhhh please provide the full list  :57:
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« Reply #22734 on: April 20, 2023, 07:59:33 AM »
Mexico is the middleman here guys. China is making this stuff, and sending it to Mexico so it gets here, and kills people.

China is the real problem. 
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« Reply #22735 on: April 20, 2023, 08:02:15 AM »
China is a major problem, and one without obvious solutions as well.

At any rate, I'd like to learn more about what Portugal is doing vis a vis drugs in general.  I'm still amazed MJ is technically illegal.  (I don't smoke weed, didn't like it when I tried it.)

 

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