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making it more difficult rather than less difficult to perform illegal acts seems to be the right thing to do, regardless how practical it would be to eliminate something completely

no sense in putting up a wall on the border cause someone will build a tunnel under it or scale over it.

deterrents don't completely stop something, but many times are proven to reduce numbers

which is good

The cartels have free reign now in effect, and will continue to have it no matter who gets elected to what.

Ahh, so it doesn't matter how many people we hurt that have legitimate reasons to cross the border. Let's just say "screw you" to law-abiding people who have done nothing wrong at all, to solve a problem that they have nothing to do with.

How is that different from banning guns from ALL citizens (even the law-abiding people who have done nothing wrong) in order to solve the nation's mass shooting problem?

closing our border does not violate a constitutional right

banning guns in the US does

news flash non citizens do not have a right to come to the US

Take the 2A out of it for a second. Even if there was no 2A, would it be an acceptable argument to ban guns from law-abiding people, who may want them for sport, or need them for personal protection, because some bad apples commit crimes with them?

The answer is no to banning guns and the Founding Fathers also agreed with this

Oh and BTW not all Southern border crossings are by people who are not US citizens. There are plenty of legitimate reasons for our own citizens to cross. Shutting down all crossings stops them too.

 of course there would be allowances made however there would not be the addition of millions of illegals to our country and the flow of drugs would be adversely affected

maybe instead of using the words shut down I should have used the word secured instead