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utee94

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« Reply #22064 on: March 24, 2023, 01:42:21 PM »
It's hard to sleep in a hotel sometimes. It's all about the bed. We have good luck with Hilton places.

We have an amazing bed in our RV and I get awesome sleep when we take it.  Way better than pretty much any hotel bed I've ever used.  The RV mattress is honestly better than our much more expensive mattress in the house, I should just replace that one with the same model we have in the RV.

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« Reply #22065 on: March 24, 2023, 02:16:32 PM »
then why doesn't your party do good?
When was the last time your party had a majority of power in Washington to get things done?
What did your party do at that time to change this country for the better?

If your party's excuse for not getting things done is "the other" party, then there may be a problem with the 2-party system. Or perhaps your party really doesn't care enough to do good, they simply play the blame game with the other party while staying in power.

my view will only be satisfied when any party comes along and does something to improve this country. having beliefs is great.  But, if there's no action it's useless.

similar to climate change beliefs
largest tax cut in 50 years how bout that
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« Reply #22066 on: March 24, 2023, 02:18:45 PM »
How can you honesty believe this????????????
and along come OAM to change a good discussion into mud slinging
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« Reply #22067 on: March 24, 2023, 02:21:57 PM »
I think the current divide is illustrated by the Walker and Fetterman Senate campaigns in Georgia and Pennsylvania. 

Substantially all of the Republican voters in Georgia AND substantially all of the Democratic voters in Pennsylvania voted for a candidate from their party who was flat out retarded. 

The thing is, I'm not even sure that I blame them. The divide is so stark that for most voters a retard who will vote most of the time with your "team" is rationally preferable to a cognitively functional person who will vote against your "team" most of the time.

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« Reply #22068 on: March 24, 2023, 02:26:59 PM »
I think the current divide is illustrated by the Walker and Fetterman Senate campaigns in Georgia and Pennsylvania.

Substantially all of the Republican voters in Georgia AND substantially all of the Democratic voters in Pennsylvania voted for a candidate from their party who was flat out retarded.

The thing is, I'm not even sure that I blame them. The divide is so stark that for most voters a retard who will vote most of the time with your "team" is rationally preferable to a cognitively functional person who will vote against your "team" most of the time.
a lot of voters simply did not feel Walker was not up for the job

just because you didnt is just your opinion

and hey the system worked didnt it
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« Reply #22069 on: March 24, 2023, 03:10:20 PM »
a lot of voters simply did not feel Walker was not up for the job

just because you didnt is just your opinion

and hey the system worked didnt it
But what about Fetterman? He actually won.

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« Reply #22070 on: March 24, 2023, 03:12:03 PM »
When you easily sling around the R word, or any derivations thereof, you have lost all your credibility.

I have yet to hear any good arguments how term limits would make the legislative branch less reliant on Big Lobby. If anything, term limits do the opposite. Mandatory retirement at 70-ish would be far more effective.

The most meaningful way to increase representative democracy at the federal level is a substantial increase in the size of the House of Representatives.

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« Reply #22071 on: March 24, 2023, 03:35:11 PM »
When you easily sling around the R word, or any derivations thereof, you have lost all your credibility.
Whether you call them retarded or cognitively challenged the meaning is the same.
I have yet to hear any good arguments how term limits would make the legislative branch less reliant on Big Lobby. If anything, term limits do the opposite. Mandatory retirement at 70-ish would be far more effective.
That term limits are extremely popular with American voters is an indication of just how far gone our system is. Voters who favor term limits are effectively saying "I'm too stupid (retarded) to not vote for the same guy again so don't let me.

Your second point is even more important. Anyone who says they favor term limits, whether they like it or not, is saying that they want the lobbyists, beurecrats, and political parties to have MORE power.

Ohio enacted term limits and a lot of Republicans that I knew supported them because they desperately wanted to get rid of longtime Democratic State House Speaker* Vern Riffe.

Now Ohio's elected representatives have substantially less power and the buerecrats, lobbyists, and parties run the show.
The most meaningful way to increase representative democracy at the federal level is a substantial increase in the size of the House of Representatives.
One of my best friends has been pushing this argument since we were in High School. His argument is that elected officials who serve a district as large as a Congressional District (average population of 761K) cannot be defeated by a grassroots campaign so they inherently respond to lobbyists/money because that is what wins their elections.

He thinks the House should have 10x the current number of Representatives to get districts down to around 76K where he thinks they would be more responsive to voters.

*In those days it was typical for State House Speakers to be VERY powerful and hold their offices for decades. Another example is Willie Brown who was Speaker of the California House for most of two decades. Our current Vice President got her political start as Willie Brown's side chick.

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« Reply #22072 on: March 24, 2023, 03:40:35 PM »
Much as we don't want to admit it, most of the problems with Congress are simply reflections of problems of us.

Maybe the problem isn't simply that Congress is hopelessly divided but rather that WE are hopelessly divided.
I believe that we are hopelessly divided because of the actions and rhetoric of the leaders in both parties
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« Reply #22073 on: March 24, 2023, 03:45:42 PM »
Yeah I'm sure a HOR with over 4,000 members would be really efficient and effective.  Good Lord.  The unintended consequences of a change like that would be breathtaking.  On second thought, let's go ahead and do it.  C-Span ratings would skyrocket.

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« Reply #22074 on: March 24, 2023, 03:49:08 PM »
But what about Fetterman? He actually won.
Walker wasn't up to the job, neither is Fetterman
there's the problem, the two parties don't even have the want to or leadership to promote capable people for positions in their own party.

neither party is really trying to do good
same issue we have for presidential candidates

Trump and Biden where their answers?
It's laughable
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« Reply #22075 on: March 24, 2023, 03:50:07 PM »
Yeah I'm sure a HOR with over 4,000 members would be really efficient and effective.  Good Lord.  The unintended consequences of a change like that would be breathtaking.  On second thought, let's go ahead and do it.  C-Span ratings would skyrocket.
more folks caught sleeping? or picking their noses
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« Reply #22076 on: March 24, 2023, 03:50:26 PM »
I don't know if 4,000 is the right number, but 435 is way too low.

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn02384/

The UK has 1/5 the population of the US, yet there have been between 650 and 700 seats in the Commons over the last 200 years.

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« Reply #22077 on: March 24, 2023, 03:56:33 PM »
You've watched video of the Commons, right?

Like I said, C-Span ratings would skyrocket.  We should definitely make this happen.

 

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