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Few things are static in life, some may appear to be.  Entropy is winning, and will win.  The End.

I don't have any problem with results being announced in the East before polls close in Hawaii.  

The reasons given for the outcome are many

Again its not that they were of but that most were off favoring the dems

Im assuming that any analysis of poll accuracy looks at the polls at the time of the election

Im not saying this is on purpose as there may be valid reasons why the dems are favored inaccurately

Im only saying this is not new and has been repeated for many past elections

This year is no different as I believe the polls favor the dems by 2 to 4 points from what the actual will turn out to be

Yes. I’m aware that you don’t care about the why. I however remain interested.

I suppose they might need more adjustments for folks who enjoy lying to pollsters.

or perhaps the polls shouldn't be biased

left leaning.    like the media and polling organizations

I used to be involved at times with "polling".  It was product evaluation, really, I'd be on the fringes, but I'd see the questionaires ahead of time, and the results.  One statistican, a fellow I liked a lot, told me about 10% of any rep group is checking boxes at random, or intentionally misrepresenating their experiences.  They could usually cull the former with questions asked different ways, they'd get contradictory responses and probably delete the response.  The others would be included if they were consistent.

Good polling is really a science and rather involved, and of course getting a true sample of the population is a challenge.  I went back and looked at various polls in GA statewide elections and the final polls were all very close to the final outcome, without a point or two.

I disagree, I think what folks believe is what they WANT to believe, and they will find a news outlet that tells them that, confirmation bias.  They don't believe anything contrary of course.

course its also possible people tend to shy away from outlets that have been wrong a lot too

I think over time folks have an develop an internal feeling of whats right and whats wrong

a listing of values sort of that when they find an outlet that matches these internal rules to live by they will tend to tune them in more often

This is both oddly over charitable and kinda def contradictory.

It also somewhat reverses most peoples’ interaction with media.

Those are fancy words

Now tell us what you mean