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NorthernOhioBuckeye

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« Reply #17094 on: June 03, 2022, 01:13:29 PM »
Several people here seem to keep missing the "we (the US) are going to be pumping more oil next year than any other time in our history" part.

The federal government (as in, part of the Biden administration) prepares these forecasts.  The oil companies are not listening to the politicians speeches.  90% of that is just lip service to their constituents.  The oil companies are reading the forecasts and planning accordingly.  Cancelling the leases means that plans that they had for drilling for oil 5 years from now have to be changed to move to different locations.  Yeah, that's annoying, but it's the "planning" phase of a project.  Nobody was laid off because at this point, these are just lines on paper.

According to the Interior Secretary, there are 9000 other permits for drilling that are approved and are currently not being used. 
Planning as in forecasting. And being as the price of oil and hence it's byproducts (gas, diesel, etc) is determined through futures, you have just confirmed why those prices are rising. There is plenty of uncertainy in the market due to this administration. 

As for the permits, I believe you are wrong. There were 9000 approved leases, not permits. The leases were not being utilized due to the permiting process being brought to a craw by this administration. Without the permits, the leases are useless. 

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« Reply #17095 on: June 03, 2022, 01:16:05 PM »
I thought I heard the Biden administration canceled a lot of new leases?  Also hearing the administration is slow walking the permits and approvals related to actually drilling and developing a lease.  And they're adding new requirements such as statements on how a new pipeline terminal will impact social equity in the area in addition to the usual environmental impact statement.  The bottom line is if the oil companies think they can make money from a lease through all the BS they will develop the resource.   If not, the leased land will sit idle and your price at the pump will go higher.
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« Reply #17096 on: June 03, 2022, 01:21:18 PM »
Customer POV, flying has never been more crappy than during this calendar year in my opinion.   The bar is so low right now.

Agreed, peak Covid '20 was swell along with after 9/11

Probably extra jaded from my extra delay last night over 'equipment' issues.  Translation, 4 delta techs to remove a broken tray table as it is an 'egress' issue and we can't leave til it is resolved.  + 45 minutes on a plane wo A/C as we werent fired up yet.

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« Reply #17097 on: June 03, 2022, 01:25:13 PM »
Several people here seem to keep missing the "we (the US) are going to be pumping more oil next year than any other time in our history" part.

The federal government (as in, part of the Biden administration) prepares these forecasts.  The oil companies are not listening to the politicians speeches.  90% of that is just lip service to their constituents.  The oil companies are reading the forecasts and planning accordingly.  Cancelling the leases means that plans that they had for drilling for oil 5 years from now have to be changed to move to different locations.  Yeah, that's annoying, but it's the "planning" phase of a project.  Nobody was laid off because at this point, these are just lines on paper.

According to the Interior Secretary, there are 9000 other permits for drilling that are approved and are currently not being used. 
And there should be more than that.

With the proven fields, we should be an exporter.
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« Reply #17098 on: June 03, 2022, 01:27:42 PM »
And there should be more than that.

With the proven fields, we should be an exporter.
exactly

we should not be dependent on any other country for our energy needs
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« Reply #17099 on: June 03, 2022, 01:52:26 PM »
I thought I heard the Biden administration canceled a lot of new leases?  Also hearing the administration is slow walking the permits and approvals related to actually drilling and developing a lease.  And they're adding new requirements such as statements on how a new pipeline terminal will impact social equity in the area in addition to the usual environmental impact statement.  The bottom line is if the oil companies think they can make money from a lease through all the BS they will develop the resource.  If not, the leased land will sit idle and your price at the pump will go higher.
And that's the point. They are not willing to risk millions of dollars drilling a well to only have to abandon it due to lack of permits to move the oil. It is the regulations that the Biden Admin have implemented in the name of Green Enery or Social Justice or whatever idiotic narrative they are pushing, that is impededing domestic oil production. Sure, we may be pumping more now, but the prospects for that to continue are not looking good under this admin.

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« Reply #17100 on: June 03, 2022, 01:59:48 PM »
Planning as in forecasting. And being as the price of oil and hence it's byproducts (gas, diesel, etc) is determined through futures, you have just confirmed why those prices are rising. There is plenty of uncertainy in the market due to this administration.

As for the permits, I believe you are wrong. There were 9000 approved leases, not permits. The leases were not being utilized due to the permiting process being brought to a craw by this administration. Without the permits, the leases are useless.
Forecasting for NEXT year, not five years from now.  The price at the pump right now has extremely little to do with what the world is going to be looking like in five years.  As I said before, the oil companies are taking advantage of the situation.  Want proof?  Type "oil futures" (or any futures for that matter, even pork bellies...) into google and you will see they go out a year.  Not five.
Hell, Trump may be back in office in 3 and he'll reverse / retract every word that Biden and this administration uttered.  These oil companies have 100 projects on their board for where to drill.  Those plans are going to be updated every month based upon ongoing permits (as in, local ones, not federal), resource management, transportation, logistics, etc.

As for the second paragraph:
"Interior Secretary Deb Haaland said last month that the oil and gas industry is “set” with the amount of drilling permits at its disposal. She defended Biden administration actions to scale down federal leasing, saying that industry has about 9,000 permits that have been approved but are not being used.

"The industry is free to use these permits in a way they see fit. They just haven’t acted on those,” Haaland told a House committee last week."

Maybe the article I read was wrong or the Interior Secretary is lying, but she says permits.



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« Reply #17101 on: June 03, 2022, 03:29:48 PM »
Who knows what we can believe anymore?

All I know is we should be energy independent and we are not.

Bring back nukes. Keep expanding wind/solar where it makes sense. We're gonna need all of that for the grid when we're all driving EV's eventually.

But don't limit oil or NG at all. That will take care of itself once the rest of the sources are sorted out. 
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« Reply #17102 on: June 03, 2022, 04:16:00 PM »
All I know is we should be energy independent and we are not.
In your view, what specifically does that mean? And what would the primary benefits be?

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« Reply #17103 on: June 03, 2022, 04:30:03 PM »
In your view, what specifically does that mean? And what would the primary benefits be?
the primary benefit would be we cant be held hostage

more jobs and better economic conditions

hell we might even be able to export some 
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« Reply #17104 on: June 03, 2022, 08:27:41 PM »
How about a signal to the oil companies to pump more oil here, rather than beg OPEC for more?

Ending leases and cancelling pipelines are not good signals for the market. There is not much more to say on the topic.
It's a global market. Price isn't dictated based just on how much oil we produce. It's everyone- and it's production & exports. OPEC is the major market mover bc it exports over 60% of all the worlds oil exports. Saudis and Russia together alone export like 30% of the worlds oil. They are the major market movers. That's two freaking countries.

A President who can get the Saudis (and therefore OPEC) to play ball is much more important than any leases or pipelines. Last guy had the Saudis wrapped around his little finger. New guy is an incompetent senile moron who can't even get them to pick up his phone calls.

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« Reply #17105 on: June 04, 2022, 06:22:48 AM »
Right, oil the US can inject more oil into the market, but it is not.

Supply and demand.

Too much demand and here we are.
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« Reply #17106 on: June 04, 2022, 06:43:04 AM »
Airlines step up push to get U.S. to drop international COVID-19 testing rule | Reuters

He noted testing rules do not apply to people crossing U.S. land borders and noted the Boston Red Sox baseball team in April flew to Toronto to play the Blue Jays - but rode a bus home to avoid the testing requirements.
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« Reply #17107 on: June 04, 2022, 09:39:13 AM »
And there should be more than that.

With the proven fields, we should be an exporter.
we should be exporting enuff to shut off russian oil completely 
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