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« Reply #13860 on: February 27, 2022, 01:15:17 PM »
At this point, I doubt China much cares about subjugating Russia, they are small potatoes, but they do need their oil etc.  China plays the long game.  Anything that takes attention off China is good for them and in this case they will play both sides.


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« Reply #13861 on: February 27, 2022, 01:17:24 PM »
At this point, I doubt China much cares about subjugating Russia, they are small potatoes, but they do need their oil etc.  China plays the long game.  Anything that takes attention off China is good for them and in this case they will play both sides.



You just listed exactly why China does care about subjugating Russia.  Why pay top dollar for those imports when, as Russia's sole customer, you can pay steeply discounted prices? And, eventually, just take it as your own?

China's probably surprised that Putin has been stupid enough to do this to himself, but they will most certainly take advantage of it.

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« Reply #13862 on: February 27, 2022, 01:21:19 PM »
did I say that one time? No, I didn't. Lol. I think I've said quite the opposite, many times.

Putin stretches the truth massively with the neo-nazi stuff- but there is a very small, albeit powerful wing of that in Ukraine- and that wing was instrumental in overthrowing the democratically elected government in 2014- and the US absolutely openly supported that wing.

The real problem they have is that their government has endorsed neo-nazi groups (funded C14 programs, Azov Batallion is an official part of their national guard forces) and has failed to enforce the law and punish hate crimes committed by members of some of these groups.
so what


Russia should have no say in what Ukraine does as long as Ukraine doesnt pose a threat to them and nobody in their right mind sees Ukraine as a threat to Russia
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« Reply #13863 on: February 27, 2022, 01:21:38 PM »
They need the oil, certainly, and will appreciated the discounted pricing, if supply lines can be devised.  I was thinking of subjugation as being more direct rather than just buying stuff.  I am curious how Russian oil is getting to the US, supertanker one supposes, probably for western refineries.  I don't think we have a major pipeline to ship WTI to California.

Those STs could go to China if we stop importing their oil.

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« Reply #13864 on: February 27, 2022, 01:22:18 PM »
I always knew Zelensky was a closet Nazi and anti-Semite .... Putin told me that.

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« Reply #13865 on: February 27, 2022, 01:25:14 PM »
I always knew Zelensky was a closet Nazi and anti-Semite .... Putin told me that.
huh? Zelensky is jewish. 

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« Reply #13866 on: February 27, 2022, 01:26:31 PM »
You just listed exactly why China does care about subjugating Russia.  Why pay top dollar for those imports when, as Russia's sole customer, you can pay steeply discounted prices? And, eventually, just take it as your own?

China's probably surprised that Putin has been stupid enough to do this to himself, but they will most certainly take advantage of it.
that's not really subjugation. that's being smart and taking advantage of the situation. a situation which Putin created stupidly by actually launching an invasion of Ukraine.

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« Reply #13867 on: February 27, 2022, 01:28:00 PM »




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« Reply #13868 on: February 27, 2022, 01:30:32 PM »
Jews make the best Nazis.

Some folks think Hitler was part Jewish, he probably wasn't.  Shicklgruber.


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« Reply #13869 on: February 27, 2022, 01:40:52 PM »
Ukraine Prime Minister is Jewish too.  I'm sure he's quite the neo-Nazi just like Zelensky.

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« Reply #13871 on: February 27, 2022, 02:03:16 PM »



looks photoshopped to me. I'd be wary of whatever we see on social media. Turns out that whole ghost of kyiv and the 13 soldiers saying f*k you russian warship - not true.

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« Reply #13872 on: February 27, 2022, 02:05:53 PM »
when Putin says the government and entire country are neo-nazis - yeah, that is obviously ridiculous lies and propaganda and massive stretching of the truth.

however, Ukraine absolutely has a neo-nazi problem. And the US gov't absolutely embraced neo-nazis (like Andriy Parubiy and Oleh Tyahnybok) and neo-nazi groups (Azov Battalion) in order to overthrow a democratically elected government in Ukraine in 2014. This is just fact.

Both things can be true.

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« Reply #13873 on: February 27, 2022, 02:10:10 PM »
I'd bet every European country has extreme Neo-Nazi groups, including Russia.

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