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Cincydawg

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Re: In other news ...
« Reply #12026 on: February 01, 2022, 10:01:56 AM »
The recent book I read "Hail Mary" offered a nice example of my premise.  Space microbes were eating our Sun, at a rate that was increasing and it meant the end of humanity in about 40 years.  It's a weird concept, but it's fiction.  In the book, somehow unrevealed, complete power over every country was given to a single woman who ran everything to try and come up with a fix.  There were folks who disbelieved this of course, she handled them rather abruptly.

I don't think this could happen, the world unity under one person part, no matter the threat.

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« Reply #12027 on: February 01, 2022, 10:02:15 AM »
I think you utterly and totally missed the point I was attempting to make.
I probably did, you're a lot smarter than me lol.

Freedom of press/freedom of speech/censorship is a hot button issue for me. I am so against censorship and gov't trying to restrict freedom of press & freedom of speech - I'm a zealot when it comes to that shit. I think it is one of the things that makes America so unique and so great. No other countries have these kind of speech and freedom of press protections- not even the European ones.

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« Reply #12028 on: February 01, 2022, 10:03:04 AM »
The recent book I read "Hail Mary" offered a nice example of my premise.  Space microbes were eating our Sun, at a rate that was increasing and it meant the end of humanity in about 40 years.  It's a weird concept, but it's fiction.  In the book, somehow unrevealed, complete power over every country was given to a single woman who ran everything to try and come up with a fix.  There were folks who disbelieved this of course, she handled them rather abruptly.

I don't think this could happen, the world unity under one person part, no matter the threat.
I don't either, but Xi Jinping would certainly love to try.

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« Reply #12029 on: February 01, 2022, 10:06:22 AM »
this is very true. lean democrat...they watch MSNBC or CNN. lean republican....they watch Fox News.

CNN used to try to attempt to be the middle ground. since Trump came along and broke everyones brains they hopped on the MSNBC bandwagon and it was great for ratings. When Trump was around. Now that he's gone and they've lost a ton of credibility - their ratings are in the toilet.
Network news has far more viewers than the cable news channels.


Almost three out of four U.S. adults (71%) watch local television news and 65% view network newscasts over the course of a month, according to Nielsen data from February 2013. While 38% of adults watch some cable news during the month, cable viewers—particularly the most engaged viewers—spend far more time with that platform than broadcast viewers do with local or network news.1

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« Reply #12030 on: February 01, 2022, 10:10:53 AM »
Network news has far more viewers than the cable news channels.


Almost three out of four U.S. adults (71%) watch local television news and 65% view network newscasts over the course of a month, according to Nielsen data from February 2013. While 38% of adults watch some cable news during the month, cable viewers—particularly the most engaged viewers—spend far more time with that platform than broadcast viewers do with local or network news.1
that's the key line there "spend far more time". local news is worthless- basically just milquetoast run of the mill insignificant bullshit. it's like 30 minutes of feel good stories, car chase stories, weather, and other bullshit. And most people watch it because it comes on right after whatever they were watching beforehand. I don't think they actually turn the tv on and tune in just for the local news.

Network newscasts (ABC, NBC, CBS) - probably the same sort of thing - they're watching a football game or 60 mins and it just comes on after. It's mostly straight news - pretty mundane - no opinions, screaming, or shouting. And it's short.

The Cable news crap - people actually tune in for that - and it's mostly opinion and lies - and the people who watch it - well they watch A LOT of it - and they base their entire world views off the lies and propaganda they're willingly being fed.

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« Reply #12031 on: February 01, 2022, 10:20:48 AM »
Prediction: The next person to be banned from Twitter for spreading misinformation will not be from the left.





Probably The case, at least in terms of bannings that get on the radar of people mostly involved with Twitter

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« Reply #12032 on: February 01, 2022, 10:21:01 AM »
My wife often watches the local news.  She is particularly interested in the weather forecast (which I get off the net quickly).  I think she also still is trying to get a feel for the city.  I once was the lead story on the 11 PM Dayton news which goes to how little else they had to report that night.

Local news is city hall stuff, crime stuff, some story about someone doing well, the weather, sports, maybe a small bit about national news.  It's the same in every city I've found.  But people watch broadcast news more than cable, numberswise.  News junkies watch more cable.

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« Reply #12033 on: February 01, 2022, 10:25:56 AM »
Whatever became of "Net Neutrality"?  A few years back, some claimed this was the end of the world and would alter the internet massively.  I didn't notice.
Forget his name but the dickhole Trump appointed to be the head of the FCC reclassified internet services from Title II to Title I which undid regulations put in place by the Obama administration and effectively ended net neutrality. 

Some states like California have passed their own net neutrality laws. California net neutrality law was challenged in court by special interests funded by the giant telecoms and California won. 7 other states have since passed similar laws. 

And yeah, not having net neutrality could alter the internet massively, because unfortunately we have a weak ass DoJ and FTC that approve every single merger and never enforce anti-trust law - which has allowed for the formation of giant monopolies like ATT & Comcast - which aren't just telecoms anymore - they've bought up content/media assets. Theoretically without net neutrality they can say throttle streaming services like Netflix - but if you are streaming Peacock on Comcast internet or HBO Max on ATT internet - no throttling there - and they even theoretically could charge more money for "fast passes" - hey we won't throttle you on Netflix if you pay extra $10 a month. Just because they haven't done this yet doesn't mean they won't. And not sure it's a great idea for ISP's/telecoms to also own the content they are streaming. Seems like a potential conflict of interest to me.

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« Reply #12035 on: February 01, 2022, 10:42:00 AM »
no lie...if I was a really attractive woman I would just sit at home and do this. better looking the broad, more money she makes. some of these girls that are absolute smoke shows are making $30k a month or more just sitting their asses at home taking their clothes off and playing with themselves.
Just curious how do you know this?😎
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« Reply #12036 on: February 01, 2022, 10:42:55 AM »
The best way to "cure misinformation" is to have an open and honest public debate on the topics in question. Allow people to see both sides of an issue and make their own decisions. More speech is better than censored speech.
Yes, I agree that more speech is better than censorship.

However, if you're trying to get people to avoid misinformation, well, it didn't work. Because of confirmation bias. If every opinion is out there, people will surround themselves with the opinion they want to believe, whether it's misinformation or not. And in a free and open debate, that places misinformation on the same level of legitimacy as everything else.

I'm not advocating the government do anything about it. But society is completely fractured because of it, and I don't think there is a "cure".

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« Reply #12037 on: February 01, 2022, 10:49:14 AM »
Yes, I agree that more speech is better than censorship.

However, if you're trying to get people to avoid misinformation, well, it didn't work. Because of confirmation bias. If every opinion is out there, people will surround themselves with the opinion they want to believe, whether it's misinformation or not. And in a free and open debate, that places misinformation on the same level of legitimacy as everything else.

I'm not advocating the government do anything about it. But society is completely fractured because of it, and I don't think there is a "cure".
agree 100%. 

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« Reply #12038 on: February 01, 2022, 10:53:47 AM »
Dissecting homicide statistics in St. Louis City and looking at 2022 projections - NextSTL


Interesting article and thank you for posting it.

I always wonder why they don’t also discuss the perpetrators and their race?

It kind of goes with the topic we are discussing about what is this information and what is real. We have people on here trying to say that crime is down when all the data points to crime being up, substantially, and nearly every major city in our country.

You can play the White House game of combining the statistics of nonviolent crimes to blend in and bring the total down but it’s pretty easy to see right through that. Or you could just say “crime is not a problem you are all afraid of the bogeyman” which some people here do but it doesn’t change the fact that crime of a violent nature is up dramatically in this country.
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« Reply #12039 on: February 01, 2022, 10:58:03 AM »
agree 100%.
Yes it’s tough. Let’s use masks as an example.

if you’re like me and don’t have a bias and truly want to understand if a mask is going to help me and those around me or not-  what is the answer?

there is plenty of data, and unlimited opinions, on both sides of that issue still today. Honestly I don’t know who to believe.

The element that gives me pause is that a lot of the mouthpieces proclaiming masks masks masks are almost always caught off camera without masks masks masks. This eliminates any credibility they had with me because they clearly don’t believe in what they are preaching. 

and is the reverse true? Have I ever seen a talking head or political figure saying that masks are not effective, caught in private wearing a mask? Of course not.
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