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OrangeAfroMan

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« Reply #8988 on: October 23, 2021, 11:21:24 AM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on October 23, 2021, 10:10:35 AM
She must have gotten that from me, as I have long advocated for giving NY to Canada and CA to Mexico.

We would be just fine without all your hand wringing micro-managing nonsense.
You'd just give away over 20% of our county's GDP because of differences of opinion.  
Your people are going to love paying triple for produce and starting from scratch with an economic epicenter.  lol
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« Reply #8989 on: October 23, 2021, 11:23:06 AM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on October 23, 2021, 10:49:59 AM

Lol. We left over taxes, which were practically nonexistent back then compared to the tremendous burden that they have become today. Just pennies on the dollar.
If you feel oppressed, you're free to leave. That's my unpoliced thought about your unpoliced thought.
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« Reply #8990 on: October 23, 2021, 11:26:35 AM »
The "if you don't like it, you can leave" narrative is such BS.  Our country has nothing but taken in people, en masse.  You see, we adjust, improve, and move on.  It's called progress.
And progress is undefeated.  It can be slow at times, but yeah, if you're in the way of progress, instead of suggesting you leave....I'd just predict you'll fall in line or at worse, just age out.  

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« Reply #8991 on: October 23, 2021, 11:29:24 AM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on October 22, 2021, 11:33:39 PM
A part of me wants to answer this, but then I realize it’s just going down this incredibly stupid jerk off story that you’re concocting. Run along and keep playing pretend like a slow child. 
yet, here we are 12 hours later
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« Reply #8992 on: October 23, 2021, 11:34:09 AM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on October 23, 2021, 10:39:04 AM
An interesting theory. Probably doesn't affect the raw bottom line comparatively (Californians almost assuredly recoup more of the SS tax contributions in terms of raw dollars than Florida), though I suppose it would tweak the numbers since fewer Floridians work on a percentage basis.
Well, just using me and my wife as examples here...

All of her contributions went through Illinois. All of my contributions still go through Illinois, since my company is based there. And, I pay double on me, and the other half for every employee I have (because businessmen suck, of course).

So, I'll be happy when we start collecting all of that Illinois "contribution" here in Florida.
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« Reply #8993 on: October 23, 2021, 11:35:49 AM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on October 23, 2021, 11:23:06 AM
If you feel oppressed, you're free to leave. That's my unpoliced thought about your unpoliced thought.



Lol. Man, you are easy to troll. At least try and shake the hook. 
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« Reply #8994 on: October 23, 2021, 11:39:50 AM »

Quote from: longhorn320 on October 23, 2021, 10:51:58 AM

I dont think where you live determines dependence on the government.  Folks who are highly dependent on the government tend to migrate to urban areas.  That doesnt mean if you happen to live in an urban area you are highly dependent on the government.
I think it's also complicated because while rural areas are free of that congestion, their links to the rest of places are also pretty often government reliant. And if there's less government, all those things are more expensive farther out. Not to mention, it's pretty hard to farm a ton of things in this country independently without government subsidy. 

Basically, my thought it there's a modest amount of government infrastructure that boosts rural places that would see increased prices, were it not subsidized. 
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« Reply #8995 on: October 23, 2021, 11:41:26 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on October 23, 2021, 11:26:35 AM
Our country has nothing but taken in people, en masse.  You see, we adjust, improve, and move on.  It's called progress.
And progress is undefeated.  It can be slow at times, but yeah, if you're in the way of progress, instead of suggesting you leave....I'd just predict you'll fall in line or at worse, just age out. 
Progress isn't opening the gates and leaving everyone eat for free unchecked. Whether it's corporate write offs/subsidies or welfare assistance/benefits to those that either didn't need or earn such.The Constitution or Bill of Rights didn't include enslaving the working class to free loaders
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« Reply #8996 on: October 23, 2021, 11:43:01 AM »
Fro is just belching out left wing buzz words like a pull string dummy, as usual. 
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Re: In other news ...
« Reply #8997 on: October 23, 2021, 11:43:49 AM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on October 23, 2021, 11:35:49 AM


Lol. Man, you are easy to troll. At least try and shake the hook.
It's one of my great weaknesses. I like having civil conversation. It's in fact why I come here. Because in a world where people meander about deciding to say things because they'll get some jollies from making people mad, this place is a nice receive. Was, anyway. 

Now run along, do some meth and sample the child brides like you South Utah folks do. 
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« Reply #8998 on: October 23, 2021, 11:49:37 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on October 23, 2021, 11:34:09 AM
Well, just using me and my wife as examples here...

All of her contributions went through Illinois. All of my contributions still go through Illinois, since my company is based there. And, I pay double on me, and the other half for every employee I have (because businessmen suck, of course).

So, I'll be happy when we start collecting all of that Illinois "contribution" here in Florida.
How dare you have a well thought out plan,possess professional accrued skills coupled with due diligence and have the gall to implement them,why I never.....
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« Reply #8999 on: October 23, 2021, 11:54:29 AM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on October 23, 2021, 11:43:49 AM
Now run along, do some meth and sample the child brides like you South Utah folks do.
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« Reply #9000 on: October 23, 2021, 12:07:38 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on October 23, 2021, 11:34:09 AM
Well, just using me and my wife as examples here...

All of her contributions went through Illinois. All of my contributions still go through Illinois, since my company is based there. And, I pay double on me, and the other half for every employee I have (because businessmen suck, of course).

So, I'll be happy when we start collecting all of that Illinois "contribution" here in Florida.
Well, I get that. But all 5 million old Florida folks aren't from out of state. And all nearly 6 million Californians older than 65 aren't from in-state either. And assuming the rates are roughly average (I know different states pay out different amounts and there are a bunch of other factors, but I couldn't find the raw data there), any contributions coming out of a state like Ca. are despite a larger payout than the one going to Florida for those benefits. 

Now, the flipside, I guessed, would be that Floridians are working at a lower rates than Californians, since more of their population is older. However, and I just looked this up, it turns out 54.4 percent of Floridians are between 20-62 (my rough guess on working pop, adjusted for the data I could find. Can tweak if interest), but that number only jumps 57.3 in California, which has a difference of 8 percent in terms of old people, but it's counteracted by 5 percent in terms of 19 and younger. 

Anyway, it's an interesting element, but I don't know if its super dramatic. Maybe notable. 
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Re: In other news ...
« Reply #9001 on: October 23, 2021, 12:08:09 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on October 23, 2021, 11:54:29 AM
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We don't talk about that movie enough. It's super weird, but hilarious 
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