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EastAthens

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Re: In other news ...
« Reply #8302 on: September 06, 2021, 07:10:19 PM »
I have a buddy who says mano mano instead of mano a mano and makes it rhyme with can and looks at me like I am a lunatic when I correct him.  He IS an Auburn grad. 
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« Reply #8303 on: September 06, 2021, 08:31:49 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on September 06, 2021, 05:58:29 PM

There's a guy on another board that always says "rather" in place of "whether." Very peculiar.

Then there are of course those people that place their periods outside of their quotation marks as though they were question marks or exclamation points.... :d030:

That's a rule I knowingly and deliberately break. Unless I'm actually quoting punctuation, wouldn't it create confusion as to whether the punctuation is mine or is from the original?

Quote from: utee94 on September 06, 2021, 06:12:08 PM
I have a friend who mutilates the old idiom, "Six of one, half a dozen of the other." 

Instead, he says, "One half dozen of the other."

He is an otherwise intelligent and well-read person.  I have no idea why he does this.

There are a lot of people who say "I could care less" when they should say "I couldn't care less."

I had a boss from Pakistan who split the difference and would just explain in those situations, "Hey, I care less, alright!"

Which, oddly enough, works.

(Brutus, notice how I put the punctuation in that one because I was quoting an exclamation?)
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Re: In other news ...
« Reply #8304 on: September 06, 2021, 08:41:35 PM »
Yes. Although I know the proper rules, I too alter where I place punctuation within or outside quotation marks, in order to convey the intended context more clearly.
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Re: In other news ...
« Reply #8305 on: September 06, 2021, 08:57:25 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on September 06, 2021, 06:58:04 PM
kinda like whether a person is male or female

that used to be kinda fixed now its whatever the person wants to be
You're the victim, right?  It's just gender vs sex.  Not a big deal.
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« Reply #8306 on: September 06, 2021, 08:57:44 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on September 06, 2021, 08:41:35 PM
Yes. Although I know the proper rules, I too alter where I place punctuation within or outside quotation marks, in order to convey the intended context more clearly.
That's all language is.
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« Reply #8307 on: September 06, 2021, 09:34:01 PM »
I'll be here to break some balls when people start describing an idle week as a 'bye'.
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« Reply #8308 on: September 06, 2021, 09:36:01 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on September 06, 2021, 08:57:25 PM
You're the victim, right?  It's just gender vs sex.  Not a big deal.
women athletes are for sure victims

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« Reply #8309 on: September 06, 2021, 10:26:04 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on September 04, 2021, 01:27:25 PM
We have official school hours, so you'd have to extend those.  And you'd have to pay the cost of keeping the power/water/AC on.  And you'd be keeping a largely female work staff past sunset, etc.  Plus, we already do our lesson planning and preparation outside of normal work hours already.

Things they try to avoid.

Plus on top of what I've said, in my district, we have to do 8-12 additional hours of PD outside of school hours. 
I was thinking about Xmas break or Spring break or summer vacation
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« Reply #8310 on: September 06, 2021, 11:05:15 PM »
Then we wouldn't be 10-month employees, and you'd have to change that and pay more.  

Year-round school with no holiday breaks....good luck getting rural southerners to buy into that one.  They'd call it unamerican.  Move to Japan.  

Plus moving all PD into 60 hours (7-8 working days) in the summer would be an admission that it's busy work.  Theyre sprinkled throughout the school year so that teachers can take each afternoon's invaluable training and apply it in the classroom.

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Re: In other news ...
« Reply #8311 on: September 07, 2021, 05:51:39 AM »
Quote from: MarqHusker on September 06, 2021, 09:34:01 PM
I'll be here to break some balls when people start describing an idle week as a 'bye'.
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« Reply #8312 on: September 07, 2021, 09:27:43 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on September 06, 2021, 10:26:04 PM
I was thinking about Xmas break or Spring break or summer vacation
Christmas.

Thank you.
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« Reply #8313 on: September 07, 2021, 09:37:20 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on September 06, 2021, 11:05:15 PM
Then we wouldn't be 10-month employees, and you'd have to change that and pay more. 

Year-round school with no holiday breaks....good luck getting rural southerners to buy into that one.  They'd call it unamerican.  Move to Japan. 

Plus moving all PD into 60 hours (7-8 working days) in the summer would be an admission that it's busy work.  Theyre sprinkled throughout the school year so that teachers can take each afternoon's invaluable training and apply it in the classroom.


I'm fine with paying teachers more

the kids still get breaks, so do the teachers, it's just the teachers don't get a 3 week break for Christmas and work another week in May, maybe an earlier week in August
They're sprinkled throughout the school year so's teachers can have pizza parties
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Re: In other news ...
« Reply #8314 on: September 07, 2021, 10:00:50 AM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on September 06, 2021, 08:31:49 PM
That's a rule I knowingly and deliberately break. Unless I'm actually quoting punctuation, wouldn't it create confusion as to whether the punctuation is mine or is from the original?
There are a lot of people who say "I could care less" when they should say "I couldn't care less."

I had a boss from Pakistan who split the difference and would just explain in those situations, "Hey, I care less, alright!"

Which, oddly enough, works.

(Brutus, notice how I put the punctuation in that one because I was quoting an exclamation?)
Well then shouldn't you have finished it with your own period, by your own alternate logic? 

Like this? 

"Hey, I care less, alright!". 

I am just busting your chops though. Like 95% of all posters put their periods outside of their quotation marks. It's like they see each other doing it and just assume that it is correct, but you'd never see it that way in a novel or any other professional publication. Question marks and exclamation points can go inside or outside, depending on if they are part of the quote. Periods and commas always go inside, unless of course you are on a message board. 
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Re: In other news ...
« Reply #8315 on: September 07, 2021, 10:11:07 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on September 06, 2021, 11:05:15 PM
Then we wouldn't be 10-month employees, and you'd have to change that and pay more. 

Year-round school with no holiday breaks....good luck getting rural southerners to buy into that one.  They'd call it unamerican.  Move to Japan. 

Plus moving all PD into 60 hours (7-8 working days) in the summer would be an admission that it's busy work.  Theyre sprinkled throughout the school year so that teachers can take each afternoon's invaluable training and apply it in the classroom.
Here's my thought... 

  • 1 week (~40 PDH) of training the week prior to start of classes. You can't call that busy work that won't apply in the classroom since it's right before the school year starts.
  • My kids get 3 days off during Thanksgiving week and then the holiday. That's another 24 PDH. Not all schools do this.
  • They get 2 weeks off for Christmas. I'm not going to be a heartless jerk and say that teachers should devote all non-holiday days in that window to PDH, but maybe another 3-4 days in that window would be up to another 24 PDH. 
  • Spring Break gets you another 40 PDH.
  • If the school has a midwinter break (aka "Ski Week") in Feb, that could be another 40 PDH. Not all schools do this. 


That's a minimum of 100+ PDH, and depending on when additional breaks come, could be another 60 or so. 

I think I remember you saying something about 300 PDH needed per year? That seems quite high, since that's 7.5 weeks of 40 hour weeks to get it... Did I read that wrong or is that accurate. 

If accurate, would there be a way to fit the rest in without having minimum days every week? 
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