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betarhoalphadelta

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« Reply #4242 on: April 02, 2021, 11:15:51 AM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on April 02, 2021, 11:03:54 AM
Is there a screaming deal for your part of the world? It feels like it would be where I grew up.
If you're rating just on neighborhood, bedrooms, and square footage, it's a little on the high end IMHO for a neighborhood built in the mid-70s. It's turnkey/renovated and has a pool, though, which is where the extra comes from. 

At that level, it probably puts it in the upper 15% of the homes in this tract, which is one reason I wouldn't be interested in it... They say you never buy the nicest house on the block, right? 

That would be a screaming deal for the Bay Area though lol... 
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« Reply #4243 on: April 02, 2021, 11:21:38 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on April 02, 2021, 11:14:18 AM
If your high-dollar, high-stress Disney vacation also included a day and/or night on South Beach, with low-effort travel, maybe it becomes more appealing?
Maybe. I know when I was 10 and my family did the Florida vacation, we did a couple days in the Disney complex and then did Cocoa Beach... I can see the appeal of combining Disney with actually seeing an ocean--I'd never seen one before that. Closest I'd ever seen was Lake Michigan.

'Course it was the 80s, we were middle-class and no way my parents would put all three of us kids on an airplane, so we drove the Oldsmobile the whole way from Chicago to Orlando, so we had a car lol ;-) 
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« Reply #4244 on: April 02, 2021, 11:26:26 AM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on April 02, 2021, 11:15:51 AM
If you're rating just on neighborhood, bedrooms, and square footage, it's a little on the high end IMHO for a neighborhood built in the mid-70s. It's turnkey/renovated and has a pool, though, which is where the extra comes from.

At that level, it probably puts it in the upper 15% of the homes in this tract, which is one reason I wouldn't be interested in it... They say you never buy the nicest house on the block, right?

That would be a screaming deal for the Bay Area though lol...
I like to walk neighborhoods in my hometown. Zillow let me find out prices of some thing I’m standing here.

And a feeling of, you can’t go home again washes over me.
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« Reply #4245 on: April 02, 2021, 11:34:37 AM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on April 02, 2021, 10:49:13 AM
So, I'm looking at a map and have no local knowledge... Correct me if I'm wrong.

I can absolutely see a use for train service across that corridor between Miama and WPB. Could be useful for commuters and just in general due to what I'm sure is horrific traffic.

But I can't see the argument for connecting it to Orlando... How many daily trips are there between South Florida and Orlando? Enough to actually have good ridership numbers? Will it be even close to cost-competitive with driving?

Orlando is one of the few places it could make sense, because quite frankly Disney prefers that once you're on their property, you don't have a car to leave lol... And if you're doing the Disney resort thing, you frankly don't need the car anyway.

But I wonder if there's any way to make money on that leg of the route?
Traffic in South FL is god awful, and it gets increasingly worse the further south you go, so during rush hour in the am and pm when people are going to work and leaving work- could see it absolutely being 100% useful and many people actually wanting to use it. I could see people using it everyday if they had to work in Miami but not have to live there.

My guess is the whole connecting it to Orlando is an effort to boost tourism in both Orlando and SoFL. Get families that fly into Disney and might not want to rent a car and drive for 4 hours to Miami to just take the train- and then get families from SoFL who might not want to drive up to Orlando to take the train right into Disney. The tickets would have to be cost effective though for a family to even want to consider it. If it's too much- might as well just rent the car or even fly. Which gets back to your point- how would the operators make money on that long stretch to Orlando? I haven't a clue.
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« Reply #4246 on: April 02, 2021, 11:36:44 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on April 02, 2021, 11:14:18 AM
If your high-dollar, high-stress Disney vacation also included a day and/or night on South Beach, with low-effort travel, maybe it becomes more appealing?
South Beach used to be really nice, it's now become a complete and utter shithole thanks to a certain class of people. I blame the gangster rappers and NBA basketball players.
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« Reply #4247 on: April 02, 2021, 11:42:30 AM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on April 02, 2021, 11:02:00 AM
The hard part IMHO is that for a number of those cities, once you step off that train, you almost immediately need a car. I think all of those cities have quite a lot of sprawl going on.

It's much easier now that we have Uber and Lyft, because it's provided a much more realistic way of getting around than taxi service, which usually isn't very good in cities of sprawl. Before Uber and Lyft, unless you knew you ONLY wanted to be in the heart of downtown... You needed a car.
This is also the problem with the current high-speed rail in SoFL. As soon as you get off in downtown WPB, downtown Ft. Laud, or downtown Miami - you need a car lol. There is zero public transportation. Lyft & Uber certainly help- but they can get pricey- it's not like NYC/London/Paris where you can just get off the high-speed rail and then hop on a subway on the cheap and literally get anywhere. Wish it was.
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« Reply #4248 on: April 02, 2021, 11:45:42 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on April 02, 2021, 08:40:54 AM
In my 5 visits, I've only had one bad meal in Italy. Of course, it was near the Coliseum.
Same here lol. Never had a bad meal in my many visits, except one- and that was near the Vatican.
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« Reply #4249 on: April 02, 2021, 11:49:09 AM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on April 02, 2021, 10:55:08 AM
This just popped up in my neighborhood.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/26676-Calle-Alcala-Mission-Viejo-CA-92691/25627818_zpid/?

This is the family with the son playing bball at college in Davenport, IA.
$870k for 1,800 sq ft. Crazy lol. At least the house looks really nice on the inside.

Right now in Boca/Delray area a tiny piece of shit on a canal/intercoastal that's 1,500-1,800 sq ft. from the 60's that's run down and not kept up and has never been re-done at all- basically a complete piece of shit- going for $1.3mil-$1.5mil. People are just buying them up right now to tear them down and build new homes.
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« Reply #4250 on: April 02, 2021, 11:51:26 AM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on April 02, 2021, 09:34:57 AM
https://www.realtor.com/news/trends/cities-that-will-dominate-home-construction/


Quick and interesting read about where house are being built. 
Not surprised nowhere in SoFL is on the list. No freaking land. 

A little surprised Tampa is on this list. It's an armpit.
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« Reply #4251 on: April 02, 2021, 12:11:16 PM »
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« Reply #4252 on: April 02, 2021, 12:24:08 PM »
Looks like it's on stilts :57:
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« Reply #4253 on: April 02, 2021, 01:17:24 PM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on April 02, 2021, 11:02:00 AM
The hard part IMHO is that for a number of those cities, once you step off that train, you almost immediately need a car. I think all of those cities have quite a lot of sprawl going on.

It's much easier now that we have Uber and Lyft, because it's provided a much more realistic way of getting around than taxi service, which usually isn't very good in cities of sprawl. Before Uber and Lyft, unless you knew you ONLY wanted to be in the heart of downtown... You needed a car.
Absolutely.  It's really sort of another version of "the last mile" problem.  Public transit isn't great in any city in Texas anyway, although Dallas's DART rail system isn't terrible.  But mostly it's just really poorly run buses, that run inconvenient routes at inconvenient times.  So as you say, once you arrive, you probably still need a car.

Plus, Texans love their cars anyway.
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« Reply #4254 on: April 02, 2021, 01:31:19 PM »
I've definitely found that travel now that Uber/Lyft exist really opens things up to not have a car, even in those types of cities though. It really does provide that "last mile" service when you don't have an adequate taxi system and don't want to be relegated to bus schedules.

When I wrap a business trip to Denver around a weekend there with my wife, I typically have a rental car for all the business stuff as I have to go down to Colorado Springs and all around the Denver metro for meetings... And the company is paying for it. Usually what I do on the day she flies in is drive to the airport, drop off the rental car, and then we ride the light rail downtown. Not everything is walkable, even in lower downtown where we like to stay, even considering I consider a several mile walk to be walkable lol. Taxi service in Denver is sparse. But Uber/Lyft are all over the place, rarely more than 5 minutes waiting on a ride. 

Given that I'm avoiding the cost of renting a car, filling it with gas, paying to park it at a downtown hotel... AND it means I can drink without having to worry about driving because, well, it's Denver! Gonna be doing some drinking. More than worth the cost of Uber/Lyft.

I'm still not sure that makes most rail transit (HSR or otherwise) make sense relative to air travel, but I will say that the world has changed from where it was a decade ago to solve that "last mile" problem.
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« Reply #4255 on: April 02, 2021, 01:34:58 PM »
I'll use Uber but I honestly don't love it.  It's better than a taxi, but I don't like getting into someone else's personal car, and having them drive me around.  It's weird.

I also had a crazily bad Uber experience a couple years back, I don't know if the driver was drunk or high or just a lunatic.  He was driving all over the road, blew through two different traffic lights, before I made him pull over and drop me off.  I know weird stuff can happen in a taxi too, though I've never personally experienced it.

All to say, just one more reason I prefer to take my own car, or arrange to be in an area that's 100% walkable once I arrive.
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