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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #1400 on: May 22, 2025, 03:04:54 PM »
I knew about MB Stadium, I did not know MB NA was HQ'd here a bit north of downtown (Sandy Springs I think).

One of our posters likes MBs as I recall.

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #1401 on: May 22, 2025, 03:10:59 PM »
I knew about MB Stadium, I did not know MB NA was HQ'd here a bit north of downtown (Sandy Springs I think).

One of our posters likes MBs as I recall.
That's the reason they paid for the naming rights for that stadium.

AT&T in Dallas.

Hard Rock in Miami/South Florida.

Northwest Federal Credit Union in DC

Etc.

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #1402 on: May 22, 2025, 03:38:06 PM »
Does anyone buy a car because some stadium is named after the make?

Anyone?

I understand a lot of advertising is simply to put the name out in public.  Buy Coke, it's wonderful, etc.

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #1403 on: May 22, 2025, 03:43:13 PM »
Moving a discussion that got started in the obits thread here:

Agree with mb's long post above.  At least until recently, what we think of as "decades" actually tend to run 2-5 years behind.

The pictures we have of the "50s" with the poodle skirts and the teenagers dancing to Elvis or Carl Perkins rock and roll music at the sock hop, really didn't start until 54/55.  The early 50s were more like the 40s.  And our idea of the "50s" really ran into the mid 60s.

And what we think of as the "groovy 60s" was really more like mid 60s into the early 70s.  And so on.  So what we think of as the 80s persisted in large part into the early 90s.

Beyond that, those trends are really defined more by the "kid cultures" of the era.  Adults tend to hit their 20s and then sort of... stay the same.  They tend to stick with certain music and are less open to newer music, they tend to not follow new fashion trends as closely, and when they do adopt new cultural themes, they adopt much slower.  On the other hand, kids tend to be the vanguard of the ever-changing culture.

With that as a basis, Seinfeld was a thoroughly adult show.  It really never had any kids nor any kid-related themes.  Its characters were all adults into their 30s, mostly in professional(ish) careers, doing adult-y things in adult-y ways.  So as an adult show, grounded culturally in the 80s, it never really picked up the culture of the 90s.  It was conceived in the 80s and started as an 80s show, and remained that way throughout its run.

That's just my hypothesis and my opinion of course.
Vis-a-vis decades:

I think that what we think of as the Roaring 20's was actually less than a decade.  IIRC, there was a bit of an economic downturn at the end of WWI so the "Roaring" didn't really get started until later in the 20's.  Then it ended suddenly in late 1929 with the Stock Market Crash.  

The 30's are The Great Depression and that was basically from the stock market crash in 1929 until Military Orders from Britain and France lifted us out of the recession of 1938ish.  

The 40's are WWII but I would include the immediate post-war era and even the Korean War (1951-1953).  That makes this a ~15 year "decade" from roughly the Munich Conference to the Korea Armistice.  

What we think of as the 50's, IMHO is basically from the end of Korea to the beginning of Vietnam so roughly 1953-1965.  

Defining the "beginning" of Vietnam isn't nearly as easy as it sounds.  The French were fighting Communists in what was then called French Indo-China even before WWII.  After WWII we were "involved" with the French* but our involvement was very limited.  Once the French pulled out, South Vietnam basically became an American dependent but even still out actual boots on the ground were limited to a few advisors.  Large numbers of American Combat Troops didn't start fighting and dying until after LBJ's election in 1964^.  I use that as the definition.  

What we think of as the 1960's, IMHO is basically the Vietnam era so roughly 1965-1974.  

I actually think that what we think of as the 70's was a REALLY short "decade" because even by 1979 most of the music has a very "80's" feel to it.  

With that as a basis, Seinfeld was a thoroughly adult show.  It really never had any kids nor any kid-related themes.  Its characters were all adults into their 30s, mostly in professional(ish) careers, doing adult-y things in adult-y ways.  So as an adult show, grounded culturally in the 80s, it never really picked up the culture of the 90s.  It was conceived in the 80s and started as an 80s show, and remained that way throughout its run.
This is something I hadn't really considered before but it is an interesting point.  If Seinfeld had been about HS or college students it would have been influenced by AOL and the WWW because those things were becoming prevalent in the 1990's while the show was still on but since it was about, as you put it, adults "doing adult-y things in adult-y ways" that never came up.  









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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #1404 on: May 22, 2025, 03:45:00 PM »


I thought we should feature some cool graphics and data charts for @MikeDeTiger ....

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #1405 on: May 22, 2025, 04:22:31 PM »
Copied from Facebook, a building going up near us:




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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #1406 on: May 22, 2025, 05:27:27 PM »
Does anyone buy a car because some stadium is named after the make?

Anyone?

I understand a lot of advertising is simply to put the name out in public.  Buy Coke, it's wonderful, etc.
I would venture that no, there is no individual person who was not already thinking about buying a make of vehicle, sees the name of said make on a stadium, and then buys that make of vehicle. 

But... I don't know squat about "branding"; I'm an engineer. But with what I've been involved with work-wise very recently on top of what I've done over the last several years since changing roles... I accept that there are a LOT of people who think it's a pretty big deal. 

Branding is about creating a positive perception in the mind of the world / consumers / potential buyers about your company. Part of this (and one place stadium naming rights come in) is simply reminding them as often as possible that you exist. You're trying to gain as much "mind share" as possible. But also related to stadium naming rights is that you're trying to associate your brand with something that they already have an emotional attachment to--the team they cheer for who plays in that stadium, and/or the positive experiences they have in that stadium. 

I'd say that most luxury car brands aren't just selling a car; they're selling a lifestyle / image. Having their name on a ritzy stadium helps to build that image. 

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #1407 on: May 22, 2025, 05:34:17 PM »
I had occasion to rub shoulders a fair but with "marketers", MBAs all of them, working in "marketing".  I was assured that if "Tide" quite advertising, the brand would lose 90% of it's business in two years, if not more.  The purpose of ads was more to keep the name going, "brand awareness".  Tide Tide Tide.  We had some of the stupidest commercials on TV.

Most of them were pretty smart folks, so I imagine they are right.

I once was offered a transfer to go work downtown with them.  I thought it very peculiar though I was informed it would be a great career move for me.

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #1408 on: May 22, 2025, 05:59:55 PM »
Those MBA dudes are total aholes.

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #1409 on: May 22, 2025, 06:06:45 PM »
Those MBA dudes are total aholes.
I liked most of them that I dealt with, some became pretty good friends.




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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #1410 on: May 22, 2025, 06:07:10 PM »

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #1411 on: May 23, 2025, 07:45:01 AM »
For the first time, scientists have observed a collection of particles, also known as a quasiparticle, that's massless when moving one direction but has mass in the other direction. The quasiparticle, called a semi-Dirac fermion, was first theorized 16 years ago, but was only recently spotted inside a crystal of semi-metal material called ZrSiS. The observation of the quasiparticle opens the door to future advances in a range of emerging technologies from batteries to sensors, according to the researchers.
The team, led by scientists at Penn State and Columbia University, recently published their discovery in the journal Physical Review X.
“This was totally unexpected,” said Yinming Shao professor of physics at Penn State and lead author on the paper. “We weren’t even looking for a semi-Dirac fermion when we started working with this material, but we were seeing signatures we didn’t understand — and it turns out we had made the first observation of these wild quasiparticles that sometimes move like they have mass and sometimes move like they have none.”
A particle can have no mass when its energy is entirely derived from its motion, meaning it is essentially pure energy traveling at the speed of light. For example, a photon or particle of light is considered massless because it moves at light speed. According to Albert Einstein’s theory of special relativity, anything traveling at the speed of light cannot have mass. In solid materials, the collective behavior of many particles, also known as quasiparticles, can have different behavior than the individual particles, which in this case gave rise to particles having mass in only one direction.
Semi-Dirac fermions were first theorized in 2008 and 2009 by several teams of researchers, including scientists from the Université Paris Sud in France and the University of California, Davis. The theorists predicted there could be quasiparticles with mass-shifting properties depending on their direction of movement — that they would appear massless in one direction but have mass when moving in another direction.
Sixteen years later, Shao and his collaborators accidentally observed the hypothetical quasiparticles through a method called magneto-optical spectroscopy.



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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #1412 on: May 23, 2025, 07:53:49 AM »
 “We weren’t even looking for a semi-Dirac fermion when we started working with this material, but we were seeing signatures we didn’t understand — and it turns out we had made the first observation of these wild quasiparticles that sometimes move like they have mass and sometimes move like they have none.”
Same with me, I found some laying around during a recent hike.
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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #1413 on: May 26, 2025, 09:44:46 AM »
Lucky us the Oscar Meyer Weinermobile is in Town after appearing at the Wienie 500 at Indianapolis Motor Speedway this past week end
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