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Topic: In other news (apolitical thread)...

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847badgerfan

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #294 on: February 13, 2025, 03:45:34 PM »
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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #295 on: February 13, 2025, 03:46:03 PM »
My stepson was telling me several months ago about research that's been around for a while about gut bacteria and how massively important it is in weight fluctuation.  As in, you know how some people gain weight if they look at a burger, and other people gobble down everything in sight and never gain an ounce?  It's metabolism, I suppose, although I don't know if that's what the science actually says, only that it has to do with fluctuating weight.  Anyway, our gut bacteria is key to that, turns out.  Apparently there have been experiments where the gut bacteria of a skinny person has been transplanted into big people/easy-gainers, and their results are staggering.  Their bodies begin behaving like that of "skinny" people.  They're able to lose weight with basically the same eating pattern.

That's what he was telling me, anyway.  I don't know where he gets the stuff he talks about.  If it's true, I wonder how long before skinny people get rich selling their gut bacteria to the rest of the world.  

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #296 on: February 13, 2025, 03:48:01 PM »
Can we PLEASE keep this goddamned thread apolitical?

Or we might as well just lock this one too.
I'm sorry if you took my post as political.  I tried to frame it only in the context of black and white information.  Mine and Medina's personal experience factors into the post I made.  I asked for the other thread to be kept open, but a couple of posts (posters) derailed our very civil (between us) discussion.  

How's the weather? 

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #297 on: February 13, 2025, 03:54:24 PM »
Anyways, one day a week (usually Tuesday but sometimes Thursday) I will fast from the time I get up until I wake up the next day, so roughly ~30 hours or so.  It was working pretty good I think.  I didn't really do much the first couple of weeks, but I started weighing myself weekly in January.  So I got down to 261, 8-10 lbs down.  I was pretty happy about that.  So last week, I guess I overdid the superbowl and this week I weighed in at about 265.  Not too happy about that.  Literally gained 4 lbs in a week just from a little extra chips/cheese/alcohol during the Big Game. 
One point to add here... 8-10 lbs in 6 weeks is just on the upper end of a "normal/safe" weight loss. But although you might feel like you lost all that weight, chances are if you were just eating a little healthier and avoiding carbs, a good portion of that weight was water. And then there's NO way you gained 4 pounds in a week. Your body doesn't do that. You ate crappy [carb-laden] foods and your body started retaining water. So you "gained" four pounds... Of water.

This is often what happens when someone goes low-carb. They lose a crazy amount of weight REALLY quickly... Because their body is no longer retaining as much water. You can lose weight with a low-carb diet, but that initial burst usually isn't real. You add back some carbs, and 5-10 lbs can pack on effectively overnight. The only thing that can do that, that quickly, is water retention. 

If you REALLY want to drop weight with diet, the best way IMHO is simple calorie counting. Figure out your daily burn rate. Try to live in mild (no more than 500/day) calorie restriction. At 500/day, you should lose about a pound a week. I did this a long time ago. My basal metabolic rate (BMR), i.e. the amount I'd burn with absolutely zero exercise, was about 2700/day, I watched it very closely and lived around 2200/day, and the weight just fell right off. The nice thing about being big guys like us is that we have high BMR, so you don't have to restrict as much. 2200/day is more than many smaller people can eat without gaining weight lol!

I personally think things like intermittent fasting, or not eating after 4 PM, or eliminating carbs, or any other "don't eat item X or don't eat during time Y" are essentially a way to get you into calorie deficit. It's just a hack to do it w/o all the work of calorie counting. 



Exercising and working out is great to improve your health....cardio, strength, making your doctor gripe at you about your lab results less, etc.  But it's not going to help you lose weight much.  Not unless you combine it with a modified diet, in which case, it's mostly the modified diet that's working, not the exercising. 

Yeah, I probably should have touched on that... The old saw is "You can't outrun your fork."

And it's true. For most people, the more you exercise, the more hungry you are. The more hungry you are, the more you eat (to balance the extra calorie burn). And if you eat more, you won't lose weight. Your body wants you to stay in calorie balance. 

You can get strong/fit in the gym. But if you're not paying attention to diet (and living in a calorie deficit), it won't cause you to lose weight. 

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #298 on: February 13, 2025, 03:59:29 PM »
How's the weather?
"Cold" and rainy lol...

Actually as @CatsbyAZ posted in the weather thread, it's going to be some pretty heavy rain for SoCal for the rest of the day. Enough that there will be some flood watches in effect. I just made a quick run to the market for some cilantro for tonight's dinner, and the radio has said that anyone near the burn areas in SoCal are getting evacuated due to mudslide risk. 

That would be just the thing for SoCal... Your house survived the fire, and then a mudslide destroys it :91:

No risk of anything where I live though. We're high enough elevation that we don't need to worry about flooding risk, and far enough from the mountains that we've never had THAT much risk from fires and zero from mudslides. 

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #299 on: February 13, 2025, 04:03:17 PM »
Absolutely it's about forcing myself to have a calorie deficit diet.  I'm just trying it to see how it ends up working for me.  I also know that there's no way I could have possibly gained 4 lbs in a week, which I deduced was probably water retention as you suggested.  I'm also going to stick with this diet another month of two just to see where I end up. 

My goal is to be under 250.  I know myself and my bad habits enough to know that I probably won't be able to sustain any kind of diet, so I'm just choosing to skip eating one day so I don't have to make any choices.  I might modify this some in the near future with a modified no eating after xx time diet, and maybe start having a much lower calorie lunch.  Hard for me to skip the fast food as I'm always on the go, juggling multiple "lives" that I've jumped into in the last few years. 

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #300 on: February 13, 2025, 04:05:58 PM »
Absolutely it's about forcing myself to have a calorie diet.  I'm just trying it to see how it ends up working for me.  I also know that there's no way I could have possibly gained 4 lbs in a week, which I deduced was probably water retention as you suggested.  I'm also going to stick with this diet another month of two just to see where I end up. 

My goal is to be under 250.  I know myself and my bad habits enough to know that I probably won't be able to sustain any kind of diet, so I'm just choosing to skip eating one day so I don't have to make any choices.  I might modify this some in the near future with a modified no eating after xx time diet, and maybe start having a much lower calorie lunch.  Hard for me to skip the fast food as I'm always on the go, juggling multiple "lives" that I've jumped into in the last few years. 
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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #301 on: February 13, 2025, 04:07:57 PM »

Believe it or not, I do this often.  

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #302 on: February 13, 2025, 04:17:08 PM »
Believe it or not, I do this often. 
Good.

I mostly cut out all fast food and processed foods. It's not easy but it helps a lot.

My A1C was 7.3. It's now 5.4. Cholesterol is way down too at normal levels, from being in heart attack territory. 

(Hence the open heart surgery two months ago - which you do not want - trust me.)
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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #303 on: February 13, 2025, 04:18:46 PM »
I know myself and my bad habits   
I know mine too :singing:

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #304 on: February 13, 2025, 04:22:50 PM »

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #305 on: February 13, 2025, 04:33:37 PM »
Quitting cigars has been... not easy.

But I still drink. Just not as much.

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #306 on: February 13, 2025, 04:34:31 PM »
Smoking is so gross, you're doing yourself and everyone around you a huge favor.  Keep up the good work!

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Re: In other news (apolitical thread)...
« Reply #307 on: February 13, 2025, 04:35:02 PM »
Also, Deep Eddy is another fine Austin vodka.  I guess that's our thing, now.

 

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