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Topic: Imminent Pac12 breakup, where do the schools go?

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Re: Imminent Pac12 breakup, where do the schools go?
« Reply #196 on: August 08, 2023, 11:37:20 AM »
it sucks, but w/o the football revenue those other sports might not exist
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« Reply #197 on: August 08, 2023, 11:46:52 AM »
it sucks, but w/o the football revenue those other sports might not exist
would not exist. those ladies need to stfu. no one cares.

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Re: Imminent Pac12 breakup, where do the schools go?
« Reply #198 on: August 08, 2023, 12:08:59 PM »
Speaking of the Olympic Sports, one of the unintended (though not necessarily unforeseen) consequences will be the strain on and potential breakdown of the niche, non-revenue sports.

Pac 12's Softball players are already bemoaning the travel distances -

An Arizona State infielder:



And two Oregon Ducks infielders:








Yeah, because Tempe to Eugene, or Pullman, is "close to home" and family can see you play.  

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« Reply #199 on: August 08, 2023, 12:09:52 PM »
They have a perfectly legitimate point.

Sure money runs everything, and that money has created this madness.  I have no problem with them pointing it out.

The current status of collegiate athletic conferences is completely ridiculous.  It's not going to change and will in fact likely only get worse, but that doesn't change the fact that it's already absolutely absurd as it is.

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Re: Imminent Pac12 breakup, where do the schools go?
« Reply #200 on: August 08, 2023, 12:16:50 PM »
I was on a plane coming back from Hawaii that had the NMSU lady's soccer team on it.  I didn't mind because they were pretty much all attractive.


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Re: Imminent Pac12 breakup, where do the schools go?
« Reply #201 on: August 08, 2023, 12:21:38 PM »
They have a perfectly legitimate point.

Sure money runs everything, and that money has created this madness.  I have no problem with them pointing it out.

The current status of collegiate athletic conferences is completely ridiculous.  It's not going to change and will in fact likely only get worse, but that doesn't change the fact that it's already absolutely absurd as it is.

Sure they do.

But this isn't one of them.


Pac 12's Softball players are already bemoaning the travel distances -

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« Reply #202 on: August 08, 2023, 12:52:04 PM »
They have a perfectly legitimate point.

Sure money runs everything, and that money has created this madness.  I have no problem with them pointing it out.

The current status of collegiate athletic conferences is completely ridiculous.  It's not going to change and will in fact likely only get worse, but that doesn't change the fact that it's already absolutely absurd as it is.
honestly- I still think they should just be quiet. they are lucky they even have a softball program to participate in. the only reason they have that is because: football.

without the money that football generates- and these moves are obviously being made to secure football money- none of them would be able to be on scholarship playing softball or any other dumbass sport that no one gives a single flying fkn shit about.

if teams in the PAC had stayed put and they are only getting $25 million a year from AppleTV+ - and I believe they would've only gotten that $25 million per school per year IF they met added subscription requirements - which they never would have met in a billion years - how would those schools afford to fund anything other than football? they wouldn't be able to. you want to play softball? well guess what...we need money from football TV rights.....or you don't get to play softball. so shut up.

my opinion has always been the same on this: these women should be GRATEFUL they even get to play anything...womens sports are all money pits that are 100% subsidized by football and to a lesser degree men's basketball. if I was emperor of the US and it was all up to me they wouldn't get shit. you want a program? self fund it. make money selling tickets, tv rights, and merchandise to your stupid softball games to pay for it. 

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Re: Imminent Pac12 breakup, where do the schools go?
« Reply #203 on: August 08, 2023, 12:55:46 PM »
Ultimately, I see football and hoops breaking away. Big Ten football and hoops comprise the current schools after expansion. In other words, USC, UCLA, Oregon and UDub will be football and hoops members only in the B1G.

The rest of the sports can go back to their PAC, XII, B1G, SEC, ACC and call it a day.
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« Reply #204 on: August 08, 2023, 01:02:47 PM »
Ultimately, I see football and hoops breaking away. Big Ten football and hoops comprise the current schools after expansion. In other words, USC, UCLA, Oregon and UDub will be football and hoops members only in the B1G.

The rest of the sports can go back to their PAC, XII, B1G, SEC, ACC and call it a day.
100% should happen. And 100% let them try to make their own money and self fund...lol. 

not a believer in hand outs or communism- even if all those snot nosed dumbass kids studying Marx in college are. football program should keep it's money and sink it into paying the players a base salary and upgrading facilities.

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« Reply #205 on: August 08, 2023, 01:06:57 PM »
Ultimately, I see football and hoops breaking away. Big Ten football and hoops comprise the current schools after expansion. In other words, USC, UCLA, Oregon and UDub will be football and hoops members only in the B1G.

The rest of the sports can go back to their PAC, XII, B1G, SEC, ACC and call it a day.
I wish they'd breakaway, but think the conference entanglements are just too thick for that really to happen.  

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Re: Imminent Pac12 breakup, where do the schools go?
« Reply #206 on: August 08, 2023, 01:15:50 PM »
I wish they'd breakaway, but think the conference entanglements are just too thick for that really to happen.
me too. football should breakaway. SEC/B1G should just get together and plan to go to 24 teams each and start a 48 team minor league. start a bunch of new entities LLCs or what not- let the schools have ownership in them or have the schools sell them to rich fks and wall street and license their names/logos and get % of ticket sales for the stadiums from said entities- try to get NFL owners to invest. teams pay the schools for players education, rent, and food- plus have a base salary where every player makes the same. $100k/year would be a good starting point. get a commissioner of the new super league and call it a day. Idk.

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Re: Imminent Pac12 breakup, where do the schools go?
« Reply #207 on: August 08, 2023, 01:33:42 PM »
We're speculated on these super conferences turning into effectively two separate conferences in effect.

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Re: Imminent Pac12 breakup, where do the schools go?
« Reply #208 on: August 08, 2023, 10:03:30 PM »
the ladies and the men's tennis team can do whatever they want

they don't have to take the $$$ that comes from football

they can go back to zero scholarships, no meals, no facilities

then they can play close to their families
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Re: Imminent Pac12 breakup, where do the schools go?
« Reply #209 on: August 09, 2023, 10:05:26 AM »
the ladies and the men's tennis team can do whatever they want

they don't have to take the $$$ that comes from football

they can go back to zero scholarships, no meals, no facilities

then they can play close to their families
Not really true though, because of Title IX I think the revenue form sports has to be split equally.  Unless you're saying they drop football and then it is what it is with no football.  

 

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