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Topic: If the split NCs played, who'd have won?

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847badgerfan

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Re: If the split NCs played, who'd have won?
« Reply #28 on: July 22, 2019, 05:13:55 PM »
Actually, that offensive game plan was all on Matt Canada. Bielema had the (conservative) shackles on him all season, and he knew he was not going to be with BB anymore. So he unleashed his offense and that's what happened. Dude made a lot of money off of that game. Also made Bielema look pretty bad.
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Re: If the split NCs played, who'd have won?
« Reply #29 on: July 22, 2019, 05:15:12 PM »
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Re: If the split NCs played, who'd have won?
« Reply #30 on: July 22, 2019, 05:16:24 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on July 22, 2019, 06:52:12 AM
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God knows I never played any defensive back, and this isn't a comment on #6 but on all DBs....whether you're taught to hurl yourself into a guy's legs or not - when you're against the sideline, ANY amount of grabbing/wrestling/gasp - tackling effort there prevents the TD.  Maybe the fling-yourself-to-the-ground "effort" at tackling is "correct" out in space on the field, but not in this situation.  Even a moment of resistance there would work better.


Has anyone taught DBs to tackle that way?  I feel like no one would reply "yes", but in college and the NFL it's basically all I ever see.  If it's a case of you're 180lbs soaking wet and you're trying to tackle Bo Jackson AND your coach has instructed it, fine.  I just don't see it.
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Re: If the split NCs played, who'd have won?
« Reply #31 on: July 22, 2019, 05:17:07 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on July 22, 2019, 05:15:12 PM
That's a targeting call today.
your right but it wasn't back then.

Still got flagged for 15 yards

bad call
It was a clean hit
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Re: If the split NCs played, who'd have won?
« Reply #32 on: July 22, 2019, 05:18:41 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on July 22, 2019, 05:09:48 PM
It happens vs good motivated offenses

Coach on his way out has a way of motivating

ask the Tenn Vols in the 98 Orange bowl vs Osborne's last team.  Defensively, the Volunteers were tough against the run, allowing fewer than 95 yards per game on the ground.
It could've been that....or it could've been the case of "everybody's got a plan until they get punched in the face."  

If you want to label an offense v defense matchup an immovable object vs irresistable force based on the stats, that's great, but one of them is still going to win that matchup.
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Re: If the split NCs played, who'd have won?
« Reply #33 on: July 22, 2019, 05:21:46 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on July 22, 2019, 05:18:41 PM
It could've been that....or it could've been the case of "everybody's got a plan until they get punched in the face." 

If you want to label an offense v defense matchup an immovable object vs irresistable force based on the stats, that's great, but one of them is still going to win that matchup.
yup, same thing happened to the Gators a couple years earlier.  Florida ranked 13th and 15th in scoring and pass efficiency defense, respectively.
The Vols had a much better run defense in 97.
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Re: If the split NCs played, who'd have won?
« Reply #34 on: July 22, 2019, 05:33:18 PM »
I probably don't respect the 97 Vols objectively, because Florida beat them 33-20 with our entire offense gone from the 96 champs.  
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Re: If the split NCs played, who'd have won?
« Reply #35 on: July 22, 2019, 08:51:38 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on July 22, 2019, 05:13:55 PM
Actually, that offensive game plan was all on Matt Canada. Bielema had the (conservative) shackles on him all season, and he knew he was not going to be with BB anymore. So he unleashed his offense and that's what happened. Dude made a lot of money off of that game. Also made Bielema look pretty bad.
Bielema would have done better had he stayed at Wisconsin.
Was he under any pressure when he left?
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Re: If the split NCs played, who'd have won?
« Reply #36 on: July 22, 2019, 09:28:26 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on July 22, 2019, 05:33:18 PM
I probably don't respect the 97 Vols objectively, because Florida beat them 33-20 with our entire offense gone from the 96 champs. 
true, but they were ranked #3 with an outside chance of upsetting the Huskers and winning the title until Michigan won the Rose

they also put a ton of players in the NFL draft on both sides of the ball
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Re: If the split NCs played, who'd have won?
« Reply #37 on: July 22, 2019, 09:38:47 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on July 22, 2019, 05:12:21 PM
that's a loooong GIF

I prefer this one.

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I'd say the dude took a BAD angle
I too prefer when my opponents make highlight plays while down 49-10. Not great the starters were still in up 39 points, but there were still 10 minutes left in the third quarter. 
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Re: If the split NCs played, who'd have won?
« Reply #38 on: July 22, 2019, 10:16:08 PM »
if you are a starter and you're up by 39, ya dern well better keep your head on a swivel or you could be the highlight

besides it was only 49-17 after Martinez finished off that possession after the 15 yard penalty with an 11 yard TD run
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Re: If the split NCs played, who'd have won?
« Reply #39 on: July 22, 2019, 10:17:47 PM »

Michigan may have won one of those split titles that they had with the Ivy League champions, back before the Civil War. 
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Re: If the split NCs played, who'd have won?
« Reply #40 on: July 22, 2019, 10:55:56 PM »
maybe
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Re: If the split NCs played, who'd have won?
« Reply #41 on: July 22, 2019, 11:25:56 PM »
Yost:

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