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Topic: If '19 LSU was all-time great, who would you pick them to beat?

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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: If '19 LSU was all-time great, who would you pick them to beat?
« Reply #84 on: January 21, 2020, 09:16:32 PM »
Quote from: MikeDeTiger on January 21, 2020, 11:15:59 AM

Can't really picture VY letting Texas lose a game, can you?  I can't either.  Can't imagine a team making Frasier's Nebraska break a serious sweat.  
I could when UTA was down 28-9 vs OKST in 2005.  
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As for Frazier and UNL...
19 Iowa State
10 Nebraska
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Maybe I'm just real imaginative....
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Re: If '19 LSU was all-time great, who would you pick them to beat?
« Reply #85 on: January 21, 2020, 09:28:27 PM »
All of the talk about Miami's drafted players from 00-02 era has sprung a myth that they weren't all that in the moment.  They were #1 all year.  They had the Maxwell winner at QB, the Lombardi winner at LT, and a 2x consensus all-american at safety.  Coker was the national coach of the year (with Friedgen).  They had a WR and a TE no one could cover.  They averaged 43 pts per game and allowed under 10.  They caused 4 turnovers per game.  
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This is a case of people being unable to understand that they had all that talent that was drafted AND were great at the time.  I mean seriously, the least-talented guy in their starting lineup won the Maxwell Award (Dorsey).  That's really all you need to know.
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Re: If '19 LSU was all-time great, who would you pick them to beat?
« Reply #86 on: January 22, 2020, 07:45:03 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on January 21, 2020, 09:16:32 PM

I could when UTA was down 28-9 vs OKST in 2005. 
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But that's precisely it.  Texas won that game 47-28.  That's why folks can't picture VY letting Texas lose a game.  
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Re: If '19 LSU was all-time great, who would you pick them to beat?
« Reply #87 on: January 22, 2020, 10:39:56 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on January 21, 2020, 09:16:32 PM
As for Frazier and UNL...
19 Iowa State
10 Nebraska
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Maybe I'm just real imaginative....
well, that was 1992, Tommie's true frosh season, maybe his 3rd start and late in the second quarter, Frazier limped to the locker room with a bruised left knee.

He played the whole second half, but Nebraska gained just 81 yards in the final 30 minutes. From the middle of the second quarter to the middle of the fourth, the Huskers punted on seven straight possessions.

“Frazier played hurt,” Osborne said. “He wasn’t able to do some things in the second half that he was in the first.



Read more: https://dataomaha.com/huskers/history/game/1992-11-14-iowa-state#ixzz6Bm4DYoDJ



Husker QB Tommie Frazier was NU's leading rusher with 92 yards and completed a 15-yard pass to Lance Lewis for the only Husker touchdown on the day.
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Re: If '19 LSU was all-time great, who would you pick them to beat?
« Reply #88 on: January 22, 2020, 07:57:19 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on January 22, 2020, 07:45:03 AM
But that's precisely it.  Texas won that game 47-28.  That's why folks can't picture VY letting Texas lose a game. 
He got shut out in the RRR.  Hard to be unbeatable when you don't score a point.
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Re: If '19 LSU was all-time great, who would you pick them to beat?
« Reply #89 on: January 22, 2020, 08:02:00 PM »
well, that was 2004, soph season
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Re: If '19 LSU was all-time great, who would you pick them to beat?
« Reply #90 on: January 22, 2020, 08:24:34 PM »
lol
I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE HIM LOSING!!!!
points out a time he lost
THAT WAS A DIFFERENT SEASON
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Those who ignore the past are doomed to.............BE SO PERFECT, ONE CANNOT EVEN FATHOM A LOSS!
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This is all so silly.
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Re: If '19 LSU was all-time great, who would you pick them to beat?
« Reply #91 on: January 22, 2020, 08:34:20 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on January 22, 2020, 07:57:19 PM
He got shut out in the RRR.  Hard to be unbeatable when you don't score a point.
Again, a completely different year.  Between Frazier and VY, you seem to be having trouble with timelines and whatnot.

If you want to take a shot at him for 2005, he struggled against a bad Texas A&M team.  But still won the game and all.

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Re: If '19 LSU was all-time great, who would you pick them to beat?
« Reply #92 on: January 22, 2020, 08:34:56 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on January 22, 2020, 08:24:34 PM
lol
I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE HIM LOSING!!!!
points out a time he lost
THAT WAS A DIFFERENT SEASON
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Those who ignore the past are doomed to.............BE SO PERFECT, ONE CANNOT EVEN FATHOM A LOSS!
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This is all so silly.
Someone here is certainly acting silly.  
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Re: If '19 LSU was all-time great, who would you pick them to beat?
« Reply #93 on: January 23, 2020, 11:07:10 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on January 22, 2020, 08:24:34 PM
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This is all so silly.

It's your silly conversation.  Don't start silly if you don't want to see silly. 
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Re: If '19 LSU was all-time great, who would you pick them to beat?
« Reply #94 on: January 23, 2020, 11:15:21 AM »
I'm enjoying the silly

I'm easily entertained
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Re: If '19 LSU was all-time great, who would you pick them to beat?
« Reply #95 on: January 23, 2020, 11:16:21 AM »
I remember that 2001 Miami team well. 

You may disagree, but you asked about this goofiness, and I'm telling you. 

Not everybody who is remembered as NFL greats was even a massive contributor on that Canes team.  The schedule wasn't impressive.  Squeaking by Va Tech wasn't impressive.  Ken Dorsey wasn't impressive then and 58% comp% for 2,652 and 23/9 doesn't impress me now, even for that time period.  Hell, Rohan Davey threw for 500 more yards that same year with a lot less overall talent around him. 

The 2001 Canes will be remembered as one of the greatest collections of raw talent, rightfully so.  The QB isn't part of that group, and that's a big, key position when considering the quality and potential of a team.  

What they actually did with that talent and how they actually played on the field, they aren't getting in the same conversation as the others. 



Also, I can't even begin to fathom your point about VY losing a game in 2004 or Frasier losing a game 3 or 4 years prior to the season we're talking about.  Joe Burrow lost some games last year.  Didn't make much difference this year.  That 2001 Canes team returned a ton of the same guys, losing a few of the key contributors and couldn't even beat an Ohio State team with Krenzel as their QB.  I mean if we're talking about different years then losing to Ohio State in 2002 counts against the 2001 Canes. 
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Re: If '19 LSU was all-time great, who would you pick them to beat?
« Reply #96 on: January 23, 2020, 05:00:07 PM »
Okay, timeout. 
My cherry-picking individual losses from previous seasons was a silly response to the absurdity of "I can't even imagine them losing".
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Just the sheer illogicality of that statement was enough for me to "go there".  :91:
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Re: If '19 LSU was all-time great, who would you pick them to beat?
« Reply #97 on: January 23, 2020, 05:39:00 PM »
Everybody's always wrong but you, OAM.  ~???
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