Back to ND ... as noted, they still recruit pretty well generally, but I think no longer does every player at Cincy Moeller dream of playing for them. I think they have lost their uniqueness in large degree. Elite players may have them on their long list, but the competition is severe, and they can't compete at the highest levels, I think, in recruiting. And they don't have a CG. At 12-0, they get in, at 11-1 they'd get in after next year anyway.
I think their shot at a NC is not much better than Wisconsin's. Kelly saw that limit, I suspect. They might win one NC in the next 40 years. MIGHT.