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Re: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level
« Reply #448 on: July 07, 2021, 06:14:49 AM »
Ford can't build them all that fast of course, so they may not spring up like rabbits.

I do think Ford found a niche, I bought some F stock on the wife's account last week.

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Re: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level
« Reply #449 on: July 07, 2021, 09:06:06 AM »
Presenting Car and Driver's 2021 EV of the Year
Presenting Car and Driver's 2021 EV of the Year

Out of a smallish group.

If an automaker wanted to convert people from EV skeptics to EV evangelists, it's hard to imagine a better vehicle for the job than the Ford Mustang Mach-E. It arrives in the familiar shape and size of the crossovers Americans love, at a price that competes with gas-powered alternatives, and with a design that gets noticed. The Mach-E has the range and charging speed to wave off the most common EV criticisms, and thanks to Electrify America's recent work, there's a nationwide charging network that makes long interstate trips not just possible but tolerable. For new EV converts, piloting a Mach-E isn't so different from driving a gas-burning SUV that it feels foreign, yet the experience is futuristic enough to be exciting. It's the right car to bring drivers along during this watershed moment as EVs transition from niche alternative to new normal.
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The Other 2021 EV of the Year Contenders
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2021 Mustang Mach-E Lives up to the Hype
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Car and Driver Answers 20 Questions about EVs
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Best of all, the Mach-E is fun. It moves us past the argument that we should drive EVs because they're better for the environment and proposes a simpler, more fundamental truth: EVs can be as rewarding to drive as their gas counterparts. The Mach-E strikes a sweet balance between practical and visceral, landing in the space where Mazda often operates. Ford has built an EV that's suited to kid-hauling duty, Costco runs, and daily commutes but that doesn't strip the soul out of driving.
You don't attack a road in this Mustang. You set a swift pace and find flow in a seamless plateau of torque as you transition between foot-to-the-floor acceleration and the precise modulation of regenerative braking during one-pedal driving. The all-wheel-drive, big-battery version makes 346 horsepower and hits 60 mph in 4.9 seconds. On city streets, tapping into that power is exhilarating. The Mach-E punches out of 25-mph corners and zaps past dawdling delivery trucks. Thrust arrives as fast as your foot can ask for it.



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Re: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level
« Reply #450 on: July 07, 2021, 10:27:14 AM »
It's ugly, but people seem to love those ugly crossover things.  Only change I'd make, is remove the Mustang badge and call it something else.  

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Re: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level
« Reply #451 on: July 07, 2021, 11:13:16 AM »
I saw one in person in DC, and I don't care for the styling either.  I bet if they called it something else they could drop the quasi-Mustangish addons and make it look decent.

Their truck looks fine, to me.  

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« Reply #452 on: July 07, 2021, 11:25:02 AM »
Looks basically like any other F150.  The grill area is obviously a little different, since there's no need for an actual grill to allow air flow.

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« Reply #453 on: July 07, 2021, 11:47:33 AM »
Yeah, the Mustang Mach-E is not only wrongly-named, it's hideous. 

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Re: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level
« Reply #454 on: July 08, 2021, 01:29:41 AM »
Ford can't build them all that fast of course, so they may not spring up like rabbits.

I do think Ford found a niche, I bought some F stock on the wife's account last week.
F stock has been up lately. I sold mine a year ago; should have kept it. I am concerned about the chip shortage, and the empty car lots in our area. But, that said, I agree with your comment, "I do think Ford found a niche." I just think aside from those people pulling travel trailers, the F-150 Lightning is the perfect niche EV.

For those pulling travel trailers, I presume KOA will accommodate them with multiple charging stations, in time. 

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« Reply #455 on: July 08, 2021, 08:11:46 AM »
Chip shortages are temporary, don't let them affect any long term investment strategy.

We're experiencing the exact same IC shortages in my industry, but still recording record sales.  Customers just know they're going to have to wait longer, and are getting in line to ensure they lock in the current prices before they go up (again).


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Re: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level
« Reply #456 on: July 08, 2021, 08:12:56 AM »
Inagine the market only for trucks driven locally, daily, and its size.  Granted many handymen buy used, which is why used  trucks are $$$.  Some well heeled companies with work trucks will be all over this, and work vans will be next, delivery vans.  A lot of work vehicles are used locally, entirely, and can recharge at night.

No brake pads, no oil changes, no gasoline, it's an ideal market for EVs.

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« Reply #457 on: July 08, 2021, 08:14:02 AM »

For those pulling travel trailers, I presume KOA will accommodate them with multiple charging stations, in time.
Maybe, but the range while towing a heavy load is going to be quite small, so I don't think there's much of a use case for towing with EVs more than maybe in-town landscaping/service trailers, for a while.

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« Reply #458 on: July 08, 2021, 08:19:36 AM »
Inagine the market only for trucks driven locally, daily, and its size.  Granted many handymen buy used, which is why used  trucks are $$$.  Some well heeled companies with work trucks will be all over this, and work vans will be next, delivery vans.  A lot of work vehicles are used locally, entirely, and can recharge at night.

No brake pads, no oil changes, no gasoline, it's an ideal market for EVs.
Wouldn't work for us. We need 2500's to get around construction sites while carrying a lot of equipment, wood, and iron pipes.
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« Reply #459 on: July 08, 2021, 08:31:28 AM »
Wouldn't work for us. We need 2500's to get around construction sites while carrying a lot of equipment, wood, and iron pipes.
I think the Ford EV truck would carry all that just fine.

It is very powerful.

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« Reply #460 on: July 08, 2021, 08:33:55 AM »
We service Wisconsin, Illinois and Indiana, from two Illinois offices. 

Hard pass on EV for our use.
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« Reply #461 on: July 08, 2021, 08:53:04 AM »
I'm sure some heavy duty uses need the half ton frame, but a lot of lighter duty 1500 users would be attracted to this, if they can afford it.

It's not going to be good at towing much distance nor distance travel, but it will be great for a large segment of the truck market, I think.  I also think an EV delivery van on the same chassis has to be close behind.

You see almost no pickups in Europe, the workers use vans, in large part because anything in a truck bed would get stolen quickly.  A lot of Americans don't realize how prevalent theft is in parts of Europe like France.

 

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