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Re: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level
« Reply #280 on: May 01, 2021, 12:18:00 PM »
And I'd argue that this is the demographic (when it comes to home situations) that least wants an EV at the moment.  Bad combination of the best-equipped also being the least excited.
Probably some truth to that, although I do know quite a few people in Austin that are homeowners with solar setups and will likely move to having at least one EV in the near future.

But I won't pretend that Austin is representative of the rest of the country when it comes to stuff like this.


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« Reply #281 on: May 01, 2021, 02:52:16 PM »

But I won't pretend that Austin is representative of the rest of the country when it comes to stuff like this.


Yeah, just some truth, not total.  I was about to respond with this ^^ but saw you did.  It's especially true with Texas-centric stuff, too.  Austin is representative of Austin.
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Re: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level
« Reply #282 on: May 01, 2021, 02:55:17 PM »
Georgia had a tax credit on top of the Federal tax credit for a while and I see quite a few EVs around as a result of that.  Of course, it was the relatively wealthy vuying $90 K Teslas and getting $10 K from guvmint for it.

Charging stations are becoming fairly common now.

I counted 14 in easy walking distance.

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« Reply #283 on: May 01, 2021, 03:50:21 PM »
Georgia had a tax credit on top of the Federal tax credit for a while and I see quite a few EVs around as a result of that.  Of course, it was the relatively wealthy vuying $90 K Teslas and getting $10 K from guvmint for it.

Charging stations are becoming fairly common now.

I counted 14 in easy walking distance.
My office building has 12 or 15 charging spots, that all run off solar panels installed on the roofs of all the covered parking.  But that's 12-15 out of several thousand, and of course none of us have actually been in the office since March 11, 2020.

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Re: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level
« Reply #284 on: May 01, 2021, 04:03:18 PM »
My office building has 12 or 15 charging spots, that all run off solar panels installed on the roofs of all the covered parking.  But that's 12-15 out of several thousand, and of course none of us have actually been in the office since March 11, 2020.
Do they have their solar cells coupled with batteries or some storage device?

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« Reply #285 on: May 01, 2021, 09:00:16 PM »
Do they have their solar cells coupled with batteries or some storage device?

Yes, of course.  The charging stations are powered entirely by solar and battery.

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Re: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level
« Reply #286 on: May 02, 2021, 12:52:08 PM »
Here's the problem with electric cars (motorauthority.com)
Here's the problem with electric cars (motorauthority.com)

A gallon of gasoline is equivalent to 33.7 kilowatt-hours of energy, according to Fenske. So that one gallon contains more energy than the entire battery pack of a first-generation Nissan Leaf.

However, electric cars are generally more efficient than gasoline cars, Fenske noted. The 2ZR-FXE engine used in the Toyota Prius is one of the most efficient internal-combustion engines in production, at around 40 percent, according to Toyota. But most electric motors can consistently operate at 90 percent efficiency, according to Fenske.



Interesting data here, I think.  If you compare a Chevy Cruze and a Bolt, the latter has a 60 kwhr battery and about 250 miles of range.  A Cruze gets around 35 mpg highway, so it would use about 7 gallons to traverse 350 miles.  The above indicates that you need about 15 kwhrs to go as far as a gallon of gas (efficiency included).  So, we'd project the Cruze would need about 7 times 15 kwhrs in gasoline to g et 250 miles, which is a bit off.  Regen braking would add some range in city driving.

In reality, in a mixed urban/highway driving, the Cruze gets about 30 mpg which helps sort it out.  I think.

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Re: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level
« Reply #287 on: May 02, 2021, 01:18:22 PM »
Charging stations are becoming fairly common now.

I counted 14 in easy walking distance.
They're no use to people if they're within walking distance!!!!  lol
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« Reply #288 on: May 03, 2021, 09:16:53 AM »
I was under the impression that gasoline engines were 25% efficient, diesel at 35%. Most of the energy is wasted out the tailpipe as heat. Add in transmission losses, mechanical losses through the differential, etc. 

The weak link in EVs is and will be the battery. The cost, the weight, and the energy density. Speed of charge and longevity are factored as well. 

I think we’re about two battery tech breakthroughs from what it would take to get EVs on par with ICE. 

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Re: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level
« Reply #289 on: May 03, 2021, 09:20:29 AM »
The GM Ultium concept is interesting, not a breakthrough of course, but interesting.  I'd say we're one major battery advance short now.  Or, a major government tax credit short.  Take your pick.  GM and Ford and VW "think" the market is going EV in 14 years in a Big Way.  We'll see, maybe.

I'd take Cadillac to EVs, perhaps, in cars, and let Chevy remain mostly ICE.  Buick is stupid to me, they shoulda kept Pontiac.


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Re: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level
« Reply #290 on: May 03, 2021, 09:51:08 AM »
Buicks are for old folks that don't want to spend Cadillac money
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« Reply #291 on: May 03, 2021, 09:53:31 AM »
Yeah, something like that.  Pontiac had a clear image, rightly or wrongly, better than Buick's.  I think they kept Buick because it is a top seller in China.


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« Reply #292 on: May 03, 2021, 09:59:00 AM »
Yeah, something like that.  Pontiac had a clear image, rightly or wrongly, better than Buick's.  I think they kept Buick because it is a top seller in China.


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Re: Electric Vehicles - Your Interest level
« Reply #293 on: May 03, 2021, 10:30:33 AM »
in my experience, Buick has been a much better vehicle the past decade or so.

old folks don't put up with crap

the 97-2004 Grand Ams and Grand Prixs were junk
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