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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #2646 on: July 15, 2025, 07:58:41 AM »
NEW DELHI (AP) — Tesla Inc. opened its first showroom in India on Tuesday, marking the electric vehicle maker’s long-anticipated debut in the world’s third-biggest automotive market.

Located in the Bandra-Kurla Complex, an upscale business center in the financial capital Mumbai, the showroom will serve as Tesla’s flagship retail and experience outlet as the company introduces its EV lineup to Indian customers.

Tesla’s entry to India comes after years of delays and policy friction, marking a pivotal expansion in a fast-growing consumer base while global sales are plunging and the company faces challenges in its two core markets, China and the U.S.

Sales of Tesla electric cars fell sharply from April to June as boycotts over Elon Musk’s political views continued keeping buyers away.

For India, Tesla’s entry signals rising investor confidence and strengthens its move towards clean mobility, although Tesla’s higher pricing is likely to make its cars unaffordable for most Indians.

The country’s nascent electric vehicle market made up a little more than 2% of total car sales last year. But the government wants to change that and increase the electric vehicle share to 30% by 2030.
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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #2648 on: July 16, 2025, 12:10:28 PM »
1,800 mile range that charges in 5 minutes? yes please.


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« Reply #2649 on: July 16, 2025, 12:14:33 PM »
I still think that's pretty pointless... Nearly nobody would ever need 1800 mi of range, ESPECIALLY if you have very fast charging capability. 

Things like this are just to grab headlines. 

Better to save weight and cost by making it a 250-400 mi range battery, given that many EV owners can charge at home (where charge speed is largely irrelevant), and if the 5 minute charge time (even if that's just 10-80%) is accurate, it takes away all the "problem" of charge time. You can add that in roughly the same amount of time it takes to fill a gas tank. 

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« Reply #2650 on: July 16, 2025, 12:18:00 PM »
I still think that's pretty pointless... Nearly nobody would ever need 1800 mi of range, ESPECIALLY if you have very fast charging capability.

Things like this are just to grab headlines.

Better to save weight and cost by making it a 250-400 mi range battery, given that many EV owners can charge at home (where charge speed is largely irrelevant), and if the 5 minute charge time (even if that's just 10-80%) is accurate, it takes away all the "problem" of charge time. You can add that in roughly the same amount of time it takes to fill a gas tank.
I have an EV. love the car. absolutely fucking hate charging it. 

give me an EV with 1,800 mile range that I only have to charge once a month that can charge in 5 minutes- hey, I'm game.

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« Reply #2651 on: July 16, 2025, 12:21:36 PM »
I think most folks would be fine with 300-400 miles of range if charging were fast (~10 minutes 20 to 80) and cheap, which is a problem now I think away from home.

AND, if the price were about like an ICE comparator.

I'd still buy an ICE because charging for me is expensive, more costly than gasoline here.

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« Reply #2652 on: July 16, 2025, 12:22:45 PM »
A quick read through it shows it's one of those pie-in-the-sky headline grabbing articles.  The process is highly unlikely to be scalable for masspro.

Still, I always support innovation.

It's going to require some massive upgrades in battery technology to get EVs to become ubiquitous, assuming that's even a desirable goal, which is of course debatable.  Regardless, we ain't there yet and I don't see this as a technology that's going to get us there.

But the dreamers and the innovators absolutely need to keep doing their thing.  They're up against the laws of physics after all.

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« Reply #2653 on: July 16, 2025, 12:32:11 PM »
I think most folks would be fine with 300-400 miles of range if charging were fast (~10 minutes 20 to 80) and cheap, which is a problem now I think away from home.

AND, if the price were about like an ICE comparator.

I'd still buy an ICE because charging for me is expensive, more costly than gasoline here.
And that's the important thing. In order to get to (or better than) ICE pricing, you need to take cost out of the battery. 

That's why 1800 mi range but high cost will be a niche market... But 300-400 mi range and equal or better cost to ICEV? Game changer. 

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« Reply #2654 on: July 16, 2025, 12:34:15 PM »
Weight is also a potential downside.  I'd note that stuff in patents often is not "real".  

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« Reply #2655 on: July 16, 2025, 12:36:53 PM »
Weight is also a potential downside.  I'd note that stuff in patents often is not "real". 
Yes it's not uncommon for tech companies to attempt to patent technologies that aren't necessarily viable, in an effort to prevent competitors from working in the same arena, or to provide a halo of protection around other patents and technologies they're working on.

Or, just to make a splash.

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« Reply #2656 on: July 16, 2025, 01:13:07 PM »
I've never been very interested in EV's, but I have to admit, a car that could get me through, say, even two days of usual traveling--for me that's about 160 miles--that took 5 minutes to charge and was priced comparably to an ICE?  I'd be inclined to take the leap.  

I have to charge my cell phone every other night.  If my car were as effortless to power as my phone, shoot, I don't have a good reason to balk anymore.  

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« Reply #2657 on: July 16, 2025, 01:21:00 PM »
I've never been very interested in EV's, but I have to admit, a car that could get me through, say, even two days of usual traveling--for me that's about 160 miles--that took 5 minutes to charge and was priced comparably to an ICE?  I'd be inclined to take the leap. 

I have to charge my cell phone every other night.  If my car were as effortless to power as my phone, shoot, I don't have a good reason to balk anymore. 
if you have a home charger or a charger at your job, it's pretty easy. if not, it can be a real pain in the ass sometimes.

if I was in the market for a new EV (I'm not) I think Tesla is the only EV I would get just because of how superior their charging network is to everyone else (no one else is remotely close) but in terms of range- well the EV Hummer is not only really cool and GM is also giving them away practically on lease deals- it has excellent battery range. Those would probably be the only 2 I'd look at- EV Hummer or some Tesla model. Lucid is probably going out of business very soon and Rivian sucks and the cars look like dogshit (imo). The Asian EVs look like trash and the luxury European EVs have ass batteries.

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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #2658 on: July 16, 2025, 01:24:55 PM »
Most mainstream EVs today have ranges well over 200 miles.  They can charge at night with a Level 2 charger if you own your own home.

2025 Chevrolet Equinox EV Review, Pricing, and Specs

This model costs close to that of a comparable ICE before Federal tax credits and has a 285 EPA range, which realistically is about 260 miles of range.  Chevy says it can add 70 miles of range in "as little as 10 minutes" with a DC fast charger.  Most folks will operate between 20% and 80% charge to prolong battery life.

The other advantage is the AWD version is pretty quick. 0-60 under 6 seconds.

But, if you can't charge where you live .....


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« Reply #2659 on: July 17, 2025, 10:15:52 AM »
Both the European Union and the United Kingdom have said that by 2035, all new cars sold must be EVs that emit zero emissions, and if Corvette wants to be sold in those markets, in needs to be fully electric. But Tony says, “We will not make a car just to meet that regulation.”

“I’m not gonna make an EV and put a Corvette badge” if it is not worthy of the brand’s “70-plus years of history”, said Roma “Nobody wants that. Sorry, I will stand firm on that. The badge means something to people.”

Next, Tony discusses what needs to happen to make an EV Corvette feasible.

“The things that we would need to be true – the power-to-weight ratio of the electrification components, the cost, the range. All of the things that you would need to make a car that we think would be worthy. I’m not sure you could do it, or if you could, it would be just brutally expensive.”

“Our cars will be all-electric when an all-electric car is better than what we have right now. And until then, we’ll continue to do what we’re doing right now.”

“What we need to figure out to get to that point is how do you get that visceral connection, that personality that you want to engage with, in an electric car.”

“Frankly, and I’ve driven a lot of really good electric cars, most of them don’t have that emotional connection and the computer does so much of the work. But when I want to go on a Saturday morning and go for a drive, I want to fire up [an engine] and listen to all those noises.”
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