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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #2464 on: April 26, 2025, 08:18:21 AM »
Sure, but a PHEV with 20 miles EV range works just fine with 110 v, and EV with 300 doesn't much.

If I owned a single family home in CA or HI I'd be interested in one.

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« Reply #2465 on: April 26, 2025, 08:20:32 AM »
true, if you're driving your EV 200+ miles a day
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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #2466 on: April 26, 2025, 08:28:07 AM »
Even 40 miles a day, which would be pretty typical, a 12 hour charge is worth about 36 miles or so, but on weekends you could make it up.  Doable.


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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #2467 on: April 26, 2025, 08:34:00 AM »
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« Reply #2468 on: April 26, 2025, 08:49:13 AM »
Even 40 miles a day, which would be pretty typical, a 12 hour charge is worth about 36 miles or so, but on weekends you could make it up.  Doable.


Geez, that's not good a tall - I didn't realize it was that bad

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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #2469 on: April 26, 2025, 08:51:52 AM »
I usually see 3-4 miles of charge per hour, double or quadruple that with 220 v.  With a PHEV, either is fine.  With an pure EV, they start to be not great, but overnight charging can be OK.

On the road, away from home, obviously one needs fast charging, which gets pricey.

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« Reply #2470 on: April 26, 2025, 08:53:19 AM »
this from a government site, so............
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« Reply #2471 on: April 26, 2025, 08:56:18 AM »

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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #2473 on: April 26, 2025, 10:47:13 AM »
Again, it depends how far/often you drive. 

I barely drive. Many days I don't leave the house. Level 1 charging would be fine. Even if I had some "big" day driving 100+ miles, and then had 48 hours where I don't use the car, I could stay way ahead of it. 

My wife goes to her office every weekday. It's about a 35 mi round trip. In addition, running errands during lunchtime or after work, or going to appointments, etc, can add to that. For her, level 1 charging would be "ok", but marginal. It might have her running a deficit on weekdays which she'd have to make up over the weekend. 

Anyone who drives more than her would be deep in the pattern where not having L2 at home would start to get very annoying very quickly. Even at her level of driving, knowing you have to plug in EVERY day would probably be annoying, so if she went EV, I'd have an L2 installed for her. 

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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #2474 on: April 26, 2025, 10:55:45 AM »
For folks who drive maybe 40 miles on week days and maybe 10 miles on weekends, an EV would be fine, even with a 150 mile range, and a PHEV would work pretty well too I think, if it's cheaper.  This is if you can charge at home of course.

I've read that most PHEV owners don't bother to charge often, or at all, which is a bit weird to me, but knowing how folks understand their cars often as not ....

Someone here has a Keep PHEV they do charge at times, and someone else has another new Mustang EV, we have two here now.  As often noted, they look OK, but should be called something else I think.  There is a Subaru, a Volvo, and a few Teslas in the building.  There are two local charging stations in the parking lot.  The local Kroger has about 8 charging stations, I have seen them full of cars with a car waiting to charge.

There is a full Tesla station, a large one, not too far in Atlantic Station.  It's rather impressive, 30 stations.  


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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #2475 on: April 26, 2025, 06:32:18 PM »
Geez, that's not good a tall - I didn't realize it was that bad


I believe he's talking about L1 charging for PHEV which have a gasoline engine but can run a few dozen miles on battery power, and usually mix the two powertrains to achieve maximum efficiency.  For example, slow cruising in a parking lot?  Battery power.  Cruising on the highway?  Combustion engine.  It switches back and forth seamlessly.  

You plug it in over-night, it charges up 20-40 miles range, you go wherever you need and if you run out of juice the gas engine takes over.  

FWIW my FIL has a full electric vehicle and only charges via L1.  Obviously he doesn't use it much, just drives it around town but he's done it this way for years.  

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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #2476 on: April 27, 2025, 08:22:52 AM »
Other places say 110 v charging it only 2-4 miles per hour of charging.  I suspect the "government" figure is optimistic.  (Their ranges are also optimistic.)

For a person who doesn't drive much it's fine, and cheap, if they can plug in at home.  I'd guess you can get a 2-3 year old EV pretty cheap if you need a "run about town" car.

I think I mentioned being at Kroger and seeing every charging station full (they have 4-6) and one car waiting.  

It will be fascinating to see how all this progresses.  I'm seeing car ads now with favorable financing deals on EVs quite often.

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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #2477 on: April 27, 2025, 08:26:21 AM »
We put about 6,000 miles a year on our car, not much, a few longer trips.  I figure it gets about 33 mpg overall, so that's about 180 gallons of gas, last fillup at Costco was $2.80, so about $500 gas a year, oil changes are free for 3 years.  So, for us, not much of a going cost, and the charging station outside the building is $0.48 per kWhr, nearly as I can tell, which is not a deal at all.


 

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