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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #2352 on: January 07, 2025, 08:27:15 AM »
The US market is over saturated with EVs currently which is why they are "on sale".  China is different, and Europe is some different.  A large segment of the US population views owning an EV as a political statement, pro or con.

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« Reply #2353 on: January 07, 2025, 08:42:52 AM »
doesn't look like a skyrocket to me

and that many haven't been sold in 2025 yet
I doubt the final quarter of 2024 sales in the US are actualized, either.  That's a lot of projection.

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« Reply #2354 on: January 07, 2025, 08:58:32 AM »
The US market is over saturated with EVs currently which is why they are "on sale".  China is different, and Europe is some different.  A large segment of the US population views owning an EV as a political statement, pro or con.
perhaps Chevy sent a bunch over seas

or they just took a huge loss to dump excess inventory
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« Reply #2355 on: January 07, 2025, 08:59:57 AM »
Also, you can't trust any sales numbers released by China.  We look at the numbers they release in the computer industry and just laugh.  Sometimes off by orders of magnitude.


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« Reply #2356 on: January 07, 2025, 09:07:02 AM »
That is likely a good point, but I suspect China is pushing EVs pretty hard with subsidies thinking they can dominate the eventual market down the road.

And they probably will, I've read their EVs compare very favorably with any in the west.

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« Reply #2357 on: January 07, 2025, 09:10:02 AM »
are they called, subsidies, in a communist country?
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« Reply #2358 on: January 07, 2025, 09:11:21 AM »
CHINA::::

hey look, we have more EVs than any country in the world

also, we have the most coal burning power plants
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« Reply #2359 on: January 07, 2025, 09:16:02 AM »
are they called, subsidies, in a communist country?
China is not really communist, I'd term them "crony capitalist".  They have a lot of privately held companies.

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« Reply #2360 on: January 07, 2025, 09:49:16 AM »
They really don't.  Their private business is in name only, ultimately everything is state controlled.  They do have "capitalists" that "own" companies and have become rich as a result, but the CCP can (and does) take that away any time they feel like it.

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« Reply #2361 on: January 07, 2025, 09:53:57 AM »
That is basically crony capitalism, as I define it.  The thing is the "state" doesn't make corporate decisions on a daily basis, so they allow the "market" to function within bounds, while deciding to emphasize/support/demand/... development in certain areas.  They built that enormous HSR system in a short period of time because the "state" decided to do it cost be danged.

In "crony capitalism", a favored few run the companies mostly as they want and make billions so long as they kow tow to the state.  It's similar, I think, to how Nazi Germany operated.  The Nazis were not all that efficient and put a lot of resources into wasteful areas, like an aircraft carrier.  I think the Chinese have a longer term view, they try and see future markets globally they can dominate, like EVs.  Just as today every TV is built in Asia, I think, we might wake up in 2050 and find every EV is built in Asia.


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« Reply #2362 on: January 07, 2025, 09:57:49 AM »
It's a lot more expensive to transport a car overseas, than it is a computer or a television.  Even with 100% ocean-shipping.

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« Reply #2363 on: January 07, 2025, 10:03:28 AM »
I'm sure it is.  I had a chat a while back with a lady who arranges shipments of wine from Europe to the US, large shipments.  It was a complicated deal because of weather issues.  I recall one car shipment's ship sank a while back with Porsches and whatnot on it.

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« Reply #2364 on: January 07, 2025, 10:14:12 AM »
Mercedes-Benz is rethinking braking systems for electric vehicles with its new "in-drive brake" concept. This design integrates the brakes directly into the drivetrain, eliminating traditional calipers and rotors. A circular brake pad connected to the motor's output shaft presses against a stationary water-cooled ring within an enclosed system.

Aimed to last the vehicle's lifetime without servicing, it reduces maintenance costs and captures brake dust—a significant urban pollutant—in a compartment that doesn't require emptying. By moving braking components away from the wheels, unsprung weight is lowered, improving handling and ride comfort. Currently undergoing testing, this innovation aligns with upcoming Euro 7 emissions standards and could set new benchmarks for EV braking technology.


This is actually a really cool and possibly tremendous innovation. Especially if it's designed to be and actually capable of lasting the lifetime of the vehicle. 

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« Reply #2365 on: January 07, 2025, 10:16:03 AM »
This is actually a really cool and possibly tremendous innovation. Especially if it's designed to be and actually capable of lasting the lifetime of the vehicle.
I thought so as well, it makes a lot of sense I think.  Mounting is with independent axles might be a thing.  Nearly every car today has IR suspension.

 

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