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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #2296 on: December 21, 2024, 09:24:02 AM »
The low end stove/range and dishwasher we put into a rental 15 years ago are still going strong.  The newish high-end ones in our own house are shit.  
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« Reply #2297 on: December 21, 2024, 09:30:36 AM »
What do you have in your house?
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« Reply #2298 on: December 21, 2024, 09:38:36 AM »
Samsung washing machine and dryer, 6 or 7 years old, were already falling apart after a couple.  Now the washing machine makes crazy noise when it goes into spin cycle.  Already had it serviced once for something 2-3 years ago, don't even remember what.

1st and 2nd dishwashers were Samsung.  Now we have a Bosch.  It seems okay so far, it's 1.5 years old, but I doubt it will last as long as the GEs in the rentals.

2nd refrigerator is a Samsung.  It's 3 years old and the top right door hinge is now broken, that was Tuesday's fun discovery.
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« Reply #2299 on: December 21, 2024, 09:41:31 AM »
My tactic is, don't spend too much, they're all disposable

and they all do the same thing
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« Reply #2300 on: December 21, 2024, 09:44:09 AM »
Cars are definitely lasting longer and with fewer problems than a couple of decades ago, my shitty Toyota notwithstanding.

But I'm not so sure the same is true of appliances.  Anecdotally, it's definitely not true for me.  My Sears washing machine and dryer I bought just out of college in 1994 lasted 20 years.  I'm now on my 3rd set in the last 10.
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« Reply #2301 on: December 21, 2024, 09:44:42 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on December 21, 2024, 09:24:02 AM
The low end stove/range and dishwasher we put into a rental 15 years ago are still going strong.  The newish high-end ones in our own house are shit. 
Yup I have a GE Profile Series Triton dishwasher bought/installed August 2000 the clothes washer I had bought at the same time lasted almost 21 yrs to the day. The Store was dumping their appliances and I got them practically at price. The repair guys(as have the sales people) I know have said the new models might last 5-8 yrs if you stay on top of the maintenance end and are lucky. Between corporate creeps and gov't policies and measures we're getting more for less while both those entities keep growing
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« Reply #2302 on: December 21, 2024, 09:47:25 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on December 21, 2024, 09:44:09 AM
Cars are definitely lasting longer and with fewer problems than a couple of decades ago, my shitty Toyota notwithstanding.
Hey I've got a shitty 2010 Corolla I'm still bouncing around in and looking for another one and it's a lot harder now to find a decent one - for sale
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« Reply #2303 on: December 21, 2024, 09:59:45 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on December 20, 2024, 04:39:08 PM
There could also be another issue at play.

All our stuff was made during Covid.

We put in a new AC/Air Handling system, and we just had to replace it. Same thing with the garage door opener.

Coincidences?
Correct this is why the far right corporate cocks are just as detestable as the far left wokesters
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« Reply #2304 on: December 21, 2024, 10:11:27 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on December 21, 2024, 09:44:09 AM
Cars are definitely lasting longer and with fewer problems than a couple of decades ago, my shitty Toyota notwithstanding.

But I'm not so sure the same is true of appliances.  Anecdotally, it's definitely not true for me.  My Sears washing machine and dryer I bought just out of college in 1994 lasted 20 years.  I'm now on my 3rd set in the last 10.
Sears/Kenmore was great stuff.
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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #2305 on: December 21, 2024, 10:14:23 AM »
I think Kenmore was made by Whirlpool.
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« Reply #2306 on: December 21, 2024, 10:14:58 AM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on December 19, 2024, 05:13:19 PM
Yeah, and I was raised to think that constant start/stop and cranking the engine would wear things out faster than not doing so... Have to feel like it would be hell on the starter, and the engine.

But... I also know how the pace of engineering goes, and what was true when I was in my teens and early 20s are probably now "solved problems". 

I've noticed when I've driven rentals with the feature that it doesn't do it until the engine is fully warmed up, as it's probably "cold starts" that are more wear-and-tear on the engine than starting when hot. And if you're stop/start enough that it might be draining the battery it'll stop doing it for a while.

I assume the engineering and reliability teams at these companies have data that says it's ok. And as someone who deals with high-precision electromechanical systems and has spent a good portion of my career supporting customers when things are failing, there's no "well it doesn't fail until 100K miles so it doesn't matter for warranty purposes"... Because everything that is more unreliable at >100K miles is also more unreliable at every mileage, and statistically they're going to have to deal with some of those failures within warranty. It's possible that they factor this in as a cost of doing business to hit CAFE standards and it's a reliability/cost trade-off, of course. But I'm more inclined to think that the designers think the failure rate is low enough to not be a concern.
I looked into it years ago. They don’t use the same starter as they do on regular engines, it’s much beefier and supposed to be designed to handle the cycles.  The engine has special passages for the oil so it runs down for an extended period of time when the engine stops. I’m sure there’s a bunch of other things too, but these are the few I’ve heard of. 
whether or not it lasts in the real world, who knows. 
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« Reply #2307 on: December 21, 2024, 10:21:26 AM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on December 20, 2024, 04:01:45 PM

If you're calling appliance repairmen a couple times a year, I think it's possible that you're an outlier. Outside of the dryer that I've been into multiple times in the 8 1/2 years I've lived in this house, the only other issue that I've had is the oven--and that FAR predated moving into this house and it was very, very old. And that's in a house where we have 5 refigerators, some of which were also moved here from previous houses.
Unfortunately he's probably not - a guy who grew up down the street and good buds with my older brothers and I is retired from GE Appliance after 38 yrs. Before Corporate decided to sell off everything except the cash cow defense industry businesses. He's 73 and would echo those sentiments as would my neighbor who spent a bunch on his samsung fridge,dishwasher and oven. Neighbor is livid and has had repairmen out 4X in about 3.5 yrs.That's just bullshit and the goverment should implement some lemon laws for this crap.My 24 yr old GE DW is still working but going to get another DW after Holiday sale hope it makes it 5-6 yrs
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« Reply #2308 on: December 21, 2024, 10:22:57 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on December 21, 2024, 10:14:23 AM
I think Kenmore was made by Whirlpool.
Mostly back in the day sometimes GE or others
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« Reply #2309 on: December 21, 2024, 10:28:57 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on December 21, 2024, 10:14:23 AM
I think Kenmore was made by Whirlpool.
GE made the Kenmore stuff I had.

I had a "Sears Best" TV that was made by Sanyo.

Sears Best paint was the best paint I've ever used.

I miss Sears.

And they stood behind their stuff. Returns/refunds/replacements - no questions asked.
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