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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #2170 on: October 08, 2024, 02:03:11 PM »
These "!" signs represent temporary chargers put in by Tesla. There are several location along I-75 in Florida.
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« Reply #2171 on: October 08, 2024, 02:03:29 PM »
Interestingly, in a more normal storm where power is out for say ten hours, you can power your house with a pickup truck (if the house is properly equipped, and it's expensive).  Supposedly you can go a couple of days.  So, if a storm if forecast, folks might also be wanting to "top off" their EV truck ahead of it as well, aside from the hurricane situation.

When power goes out, the power companies tend to evaluate the relative importance of service areas and prioritizes restoration for the areas with the most utility.  City blocks with important services like gas stations, hospitals etc.  that represent a high utility and efficient use of restorative resources, get brought back online first.

Residential areas are lower in priority.  So if you recharge your car at home, that could be de-prioritized.

Just some thoughts. 

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« Reply #2172 on: October 08, 2024, 02:06:37 PM »
I'll keep the ICE with the 500 mile range, thank you.
yup, if you're smart enuff to fill a few 5 gallon cans to keep in the garage

you don't need to rely on the gas station

can always siphon a few gallons out of the boat or the neighbor's truck in a pinch
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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #2173 on: October 08, 2024, 02:10:06 PM »
We never let it go below a half tank, unless we're on a road trip. It has a feature in it that tells me where the nearest gas is, if I hit the reserve fuel level (80 miles range).
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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #2174 on: October 08, 2024, 02:49:25 PM »
If I had an EV truck and I heard a storm was coming where an outage might hit, I'd try and charge the truck more than normally if I used it as backup.

It's be cheaper to buy a Generac.

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« Reply #2175 on: October 08, 2024, 03:12:31 PM »
If I had an EV truck and I heard a storm was coming where an outage might hit, I'd try and charge the truck more than normally if I used it as backup.

It's be cheaper to buy a Generac.
$20K all-in for my 24KW, including the underground tank.
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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #2176 on: October 09, 2024, 07:21:32 AM »
It will be fascinating to watch where all this EV thing ends up down the road.  I noted that PHEVs qualify under the California 2035 mandate (whether they are a good idea or not is uncertain, but they are cheaper).  IF the CA mandate holds (and it may not), I suspect PHEVs will become popular for a few years at least, maybe some that are "scams" in a sense, and PHEV with say 10 miles of electric range and recharge on 110v.  Folks will use them as if they were mild hybrids and rarely if ever plug them in.

I'm seeing more EV delivery vans around here these days, that makes some sense, to me.  I saw one USPS EV, I think, a while back.  I see some options for EVs down the road, urban vehicles mostly.  The idea of an EV large truck is, to me, dubious.  The battery weight and charging times must be something.  If there is a better option I think it could be hydrogen.  Maybe someday truck stops all delivery hydrogen for trucks, and light vehicles go to EV charging stations.  Is that THE solution LONG term?  I don't know.

I'd like to see more concrete stuff about the solid state batteries and what Toyota has been claiming.

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« Reply #2177 on: October 09, 2024, 07:43:58 AM »
Toyota is showcasing a series of sustainable developments at the Japan Mobility Bizweek later this month – including its vision of a portable hydrogen cartridge future, which could apparently provide 'swappable' power for next-gen hydrogen fuel cell electric vehicles (FCEVs).

Originally a project of Toyota’s mobility technology subsidiary Woven (formerly Woven Planet), the team produced a working prototype of a hydrogen cartridge back in 2022 but has since developed the idea further… and appears to be running with it.

The latest cartridges are lighter and easier to transport, with Toyota claiming the current iteration has been developed with the experience the company has gained in reducing the size and weight of the hydrogen tanks used in its fuel cell electric vehicles.

The concept involves hydrogen cartridges that are compact and light enough to be carried by hand, with one model wearing what looks like an oversized AA battery on his back in a specially design backpack.


With demand waning globally for EVs, it feels as if hydrogen is back on the agenda, with the likes of Hyundai, BMW and Honda all exploring ways of making the technology commercially viable.

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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #2178 on: October 09, 2024, 07:46:46 AM »
Demand for EVs is not "waning", it's up, by a fair bit, but not as much as had been expected.

The hydrogen in a package concept is interesting.  But, then, how do you get hydrogen?  (You need a lot of ... electricity.)

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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #2179 on: October 09, 2024, 08:00:36 AM »
These EVs Delivered the Best Real-World Range in Our Testing (motortrend.com)

10. 2022 Tesla Model 3 Dual Motor
MotorTrend Road-Trip Range:258 miles
EPA Range:358 miles
Tesla has a reputation for building some of the longest-range EVs on the market, but that's almost entirely based on EPA estimates. The reality is that the Model 3 Dual Motor 
 the Model 3 Dual Motor delivered aMotorTrendRoad-Trip Range of 258 miles—a whopping 28 percent below the official range number. That's 100 miles less than buyers might be expecting, so it's no surprise Tesla has been accused of intentionally displaying inaccurate ranges in vehicles 
 been accused of intentionally displaying inaccurate ranges in vehicles to match original estimates.

This test was run on a 74-degree California evening in the desert with minimal traffic on one of the flattest and straightest stretches of roads imaginable. These near-perfect real-world conditions are a good indication of how far you can go during one 70-mph jaunt. The fact that it makes this list means the Model 3 has great range, but it's not as great as advertised.



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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #2180 on: October 09, 2024, 08:13:45 AM »
MotorTrend Road-Trip Range:258 miles

EPA Range:358 miles

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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #2181 on: October 09, 2024, 08:28:09 AM »
Several others in the test did better than EPA range.  It's just a different test.

Our hybrid is rated at 38 city/37 highway, which is pretty much over stated (I knew this ahead of time).  A real figure is probably 33 city/31/highway, the latter figure is very dependent on speed.  I saw 40 mpg in the mountains.

The other factors for EV of course is temperature, towing, speed, tires ... state of the battery.

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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #2182 on: October 09, 2024, 09:56:25 AM »
Demand for EVs is not "waning", it's up, by a fair bit, but not as much as had been expected.

The hydrogen in a package concept is interesting.  But, then, how do you get hydrogen?  (You need a lot of ... electricity.)
Nonsense.  In a lot of plants, the H2 is almost a waste gas, we made a lot of it ( i worked in a de-hydrogenation plant I'm sure you know what that means), we couldn't find enough of a use for it.  We made millions of lbs a day.  

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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #2183 on: October 09, 2024, 10:01:21 AM »
I think to get hydrogen one needs a lot of electricity, or power in some form.


 

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