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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #1890 on: June 19, 2024, 10:27:10 AM »
Charging while driving wouldn't need anywhere close to this much power transmission of course.  The five inch comment was interesting, to me.  My guess is charging while driving would require more like an inch or so separation, and the EV would need to have a plate or coils very close to the road to work well.

I think it's maybe possible.  Maybe.  Some day.  Soon.

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« Reply #1891 on: June 19, 2024, 10:29:21 AM »
could eliminate the issue with stolen supercharger copper cables
Remains to be seen how widespread that issue is. I get a lot of EV stuff in my Google News feed on my phone, and that hadn't come up. I haven't heard in a thread about EVs on another forum anyone talk about it, or having had run into a charger that wasn't available because the cables were gone. 

If these are isolated incidents, it might have made for a good news story on a slow week, but ultimately be a nothingburger. 

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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #1892 on: June 19, 2024, 10:33:17 AM »
I think so far stolen cables are rare events hyped in the news to an extent, but it could be a real problem in the future.  I don't know the value of the copper when it's being sold black market, might be a few bucks.


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« Reply #1893 on: June 19, 2024, 10:39:03 AM »
Charging while driving wouldn't need anywhere close to this much power transmission of course.  The five inch comment was interesting, to me.  My guess is charging while driving would require more like an inch or so separation, and the EV would need to have a plate or coils very close to the road to work well.

I think it's maybe possible.  Maybe.  Some day.  Soon.
Yes, but inductive charging for something like this (or a phone) is extraordinarily dependent on alignment. 

My wife and I have inductive chargers for our phones. They don't charge if you're less than 1 cm off center. There are a fair number of nights where one of us will wake up and realize the phone didn't charge. It's why phones now have what are called 'magsafe' chargers / phone covers where the charger magnetically attaches to the phone in EXACTLY the right place so that the coils are perfectly aligned (and can't get knocked off in the middle of the night either). 

For a stationary EV coil charger, that <1 cm alignment requirement might be <3" or something like that because the charging coil and the receiving coils will both be much larger. But once you get too far out of alignment, the receiving coil won't respond to the field and charge. Static wireless EV charging will likely require someone to figure out how to either get drivers to align the car JUST SO, or will require the charging coil to be movable so it can be guided into place once the car is parked. I suspect it would be the latter if this tech ever takes off. 

For a moving car, that alignment issue is a constant problem. They're going to have to come up with something different than this sort of tech. 

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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #1894 on: June 19, 2024, 10:42:42 AM »
This Electrified Road Charges Your EV as You Drive (popularmechanics.com)

This is still very nascent of course, despite the glowing "ads" sometimes reported.  It's a concept, and likely would need autonomous vehicles and a TON of money spent on modified highways AND cars.

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« Reply #1895 on: June 19, 2024, 10:46:14 AM »
This Electrified Road Charges Your EV as You Drive (popularmechanics.com)

This is still very nascent of course, despite the glowing "ads" sometimes reported.  It's a concept, and likely would need autonomous vehicles and a TON of money spent on modified highways AND cars.
Oh, it will totally work and scale and we can get there quickly, if you just handwave away the economics :57:

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« Reply #1896 on: June 19, 2024, 11:00:49 AM »
I think so far stolen cables are rare events hyped in the news to an extent, but it could be a real problem in the future.  I don't know the value of the copper when it's being sold black market, might be a few bucks.


I know nothing about the black market, but the lightning rod guy told me he is paying 4X more for copper than he was 4 years ago.
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« Reply #1897 on: June 19, 2024, 11:39:29 AM »
copper is down slightly

June is usually a soft month for copper commodity

but, it will come back up to alltime highs again soon
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« Reply #1898 on: June 19, 2024, 11:40:36 AM »
Here's another concept, EVs are equipped with arms that extend out a few feet with an induction coil on the end that closely rides on a panel to the side of the highway that charges the EV, they'd be something akin to guard rails.  You'd still need autonomous, but a lot less infrastructure.

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« Reply #1899 on: June 19, 2024, 02:18:22 PM »
an overhead wire like a trolley car would also work
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Re: Electric Vehicle News Items
« Reply #1901 on: June 23, 2024, 05:02:12 PM »
This is probably old news but It might interest some of you


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« Reply #1902 on: June 23, 2024, 06:09:28 PM »
good luck
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« Reply #1903 on: June 23, 2024, 06:44:05 PM »
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