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Re: Dantonio
« Reply #98 on: November 20, 2019, 03:42:04 PM »
Quote from: ELA on November 20, 2019, 11:42:21 AM
Fickell, Campbell and Narduzzi (in that order) would be my top 3.  But Chris Creighton (who just got EMU bowl eligible for the 3rd time in 4 years) and Chris Klieman (Kansas State) also interest me
Yes he's done a good job in a tough spot,think he is 50 or so.I'd be all over Campbell if he's interested.Ha listen to us like it's a foregone conclusion
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Re: Dantonio
« Reply #99 on: November 20, 2019, 05:31:18 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on November 20, 2019, 12:57:09 PM
I'm not sure why people seem to crap on Saban's MSU tenure.  He left after a 9-2 season with all his players comprising the roster. 
Because he left MSU with his tail up his ass.
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Re: Dantonio
« Reply #100 on: November 20, 2019, 06:11:50 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on November 20, 2019, 05:31:18 PM
Because he left MSU with his tail up his ass.
If you would just come out of your shell a little.  😂😂
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« Reply #101 on: November 20, 2019, 08:38:35 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on November 20, 2019, 05:31:18 PM
Because he left MSU with his tail up his ass.
So he shouldn't have gone to a better program?
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« Reply #102 on: November 20, 2019, 08:59:35 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on November 20, 2019, 07:22:46 AM
Very much so. I saw the risk first-hand when BB left and King Barry hired Gerry. After his two years of being a misfit, the program was at a crossroads. UW was very lucky Chryst was available at that time, even though a lot of fans did not like the hire.


So yes. Luck is involved too.
I mean, for as many weird moments as Anderson had, he didn't mess up the program all that much. It was mostly fine.

(Also, fans who didn't like the PC hire are the delusional sort who think the right hire is gonna have UW contending for the playoffs consistently. Those fans live a life of disappointment)
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Re: Dantonio
« Reply #103 on: November 20, 2019, 09:01:21 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on November 20, 2019, 03:42:04 PM
Yes he's done a good job in a tough spot,think he is 50 or so.I'd be all over Campbell if he's interested.Ha listen to us like it's a foregone conclusion
Were he hired at MSU, he'd be about a month older than Dantonio. 

(Campbell will be good anywhere)
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Re: Dantonio
« Reply #104 on: November 20, 2019, 09:14:26 PM »
I'm guessing you mean when Dantonio started?Looked him up Creighton was born in 1969
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Re: Dantonio
« Reply #105 on: November 20, 2019, 09:16:53 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on November 20, 2019, 09:14:26 PM
I'm guessing you mean when Dantonio started?Looked him up Creighton was born in 1969
Yeah, Creighton would be almost exactly a month older than Dantonio was when he was hired.
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« Reply #106 on: November 20, 2019, 10:18:34 PM »
Quote from: ELA on November 20, 2019, 11:42:21 AM
That's my only argument against the MSU people who question whether you trust basically a placeholder AD to handle this.  I mean no, but does it matter?  I don't believe Tressel was OSU's first choice.  Florida only got Mullen after missing on Chip Kelly and Tom Herman.  I don't necessarily trust him, but I'm not sure it matters, absent a total public bungling like Tennessee.

Fickell, Campbell and Narduzzi (in that order) would be my top 3.  But Chris Creighton (who just got EMU bowl eligible for the 3rd time in 4 years) and Chris Klieman (Kansas State) also interest me
I wonder if Klieman would take the MSU job.
MSU is historically a much better program than K-State, but is it that much better now?  Is it a significantly better job now?
And can Klieman win more easily in East Lansing than he can in Manhattan?
If MSU were in the Big Ten West the calculations would be different, of course.
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« Reply #107 on: November 21, 2019, 07:34:13 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on November 20, 2019, 08:38:35 PM
So he shouldn't have gone to a better program?
Was LSU really a better program? Or, was it the only major one in the state?
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« Reply #108 on: November 21, 2019, 07:36:56 AM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on November 20, 2019, 08:59:35 PM
I mean, for as many weird moments as Anderson had, he didn't mess up the program all that much. It was mostly fine.

(Also, fans who didn't like the PC hire are the delusional sort who think the right hire is gonna have UW contending for the playoffs consistently. Those fans live a life of disappointment)
If he stayed another 2-3 years, it would not have been fine. We saw what he did to the OL. We saw how he started to abandon in-state recruiting. We saw what he did to Stave.

I think he's a good coach. He just was not a fit in Madison.
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Re: Dantonio
« Reply #109 on: November 21, 2019, 12:48:24 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on November 21, 2019, 07:34:13 AM
Was LSU really a better program? Or, was it the only major one in the state?
What’s the difference?  It wasn’t a red-headed stepchild.
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Re: Dantonio
« Reply #110 on: November 21, 2019, 01:16:15 PM »
Lots of states have a flagship and a land grant (agriculture) school.

Texas / aTm
Alabama / Auburn
South Carolina / Clemson
Ole Miss / msu
UNC / NC State
UVA / VT
Iowa / Iowa State
Indiana / Purdue


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Re: Dantonio
« Reply #111 on: November 21, 2019, 02:04:00 PM »
MSU is basically the Auburn of the B1G.  It's got some recognition in its own right, but even when it bullies Big Brother around it sill has to face an uphill battle for recruits because Sparty doesn't have the same resources M has (or OSU, PSU, etc. for that matter).  Every ounce of respect it gets is earned, and not given.
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