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Topic: Cowherd's 4 "Big Dogs"

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Brutus Buckeye

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Re: Cowherd's 4 "Big Dogs"
« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2020, 02:27:00 AM »
Being in the West division, there is no reason to believe that they could not once again become a big fish in a small pond. All they really have to do is figure out a way to out-Wisconsin Wisconsin, and that would put them in the Big Ten CCG just about every year. 

If they begin to play in the Big Ten CCG on a regular basis, then it stands to reason that they are going to win it periodically, even if they have to do it via upset more often than not. 

Their path to the top of the conference has a lot less resistance than Michigan's, in my opinion. The Wolverines would have to be better than OSU and PSU, instead of Wisconsin and Iowa. 
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Re: Cowherd's 4 "Big Dogs"
« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2020, 06:54:50 AM »
So, some Talking Head organized programs according to his opinion to gin up discussion and threw in USC to do just that.

Got it.


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Re: Cowherd's 4 "Big Dogs"
« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2020, 09:56:51 AM »
I am not a Clemson fan but the idea they are not in the top 4 as a program is puzzling. They have been in the playoffs five straight years with two NCs and there is no end in site. They are recruiting at a high level and there is nobody in their conference that is not a two touchdown underdog to them. Cowherd thinks FSU and Miami are the reasons Clemson doesn't deserve top 4 status. FSU will probably some day match Clemson but I don't see it in the near future. Miami, a small private college, will never again attain it's former heights as it can't even sign the guys from Miami anymore. And didn't Clemson blow out Oklahoma in 2014 and 2015.


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Re: Cowherd's 4 "Big Dogs"
« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2020, 10:00:29 AM »
Neutral field, who would be favored?  Among the top three the spread would be 3-4-5 points I expect.  Bama/Clemson/Ohio State.

You probably then have UGA 5-6-7 point dog to each of them, and then OU, etc.

Doesn't really matter of course.

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Re: Cowherd's 4 "Big Dogs"
« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2020, 10:20:54 AM »
why is Miami in the group?
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Re: Cowherd's 4 "Big Dogs"
« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2020, 10:21:02 AM »
Cowherd is a moron. In that same blowhard show he said Dylan McCaffrey is the next Andrew Luck. He literally said that. I’m not even sure McCaffrey will start over Joe Milton. It’s very likely, but it’s not 100%. 

Would the next Andrew Luck have sat on the bench behind Shea Patterson or have to battle a younger QB for a starting job? I tend to think not.

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Re: Cowherd's 4 "Big Dogs"
« Reply #20 on: June 25, 2020, 10:31:09 AM »
why is Miami in the group?
Putting Miami in that group is yet another reason why he’s showing how stupid he is. 

Miami is a small private school with not very many students and a small alumni base, hardly any of the people in South Florida are even fans of Miami, and it’s not even in the city of Miami, it’s in Coral Gables 10 miles away, and they play in an NFL stadium 25 miles away from its campus, and half the games are always empty.

And to top it off most of the top kids in SoFL are going everywhere but Miami. They are going to Clemson, Bama, LSU, Florida, FSU, Georgia, Ohio State, Michigan, Oklahoma, etc., etc..

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Re: Cowherd's 4 "Big Dogs"
« Reply #21 on: June 25, 2020, 11:41:26 AM »
He got us talking about him didn't he?

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Re: Cowherd's 4 "Big Dogs"
« Reply #22 on: June 25, 2020, 11:48:22 AM »
He got us talking about him didn't he?
Yup. Pays well to go on tv and say dumb or crazy shit and get people riled up.

Unfortunately news organizations and journalists figured this out. 

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Re: Cowherd's 4 "Big Dogs"
« Reply #23 on: June 25, 2020, 11:48:38 AM »
Being in the West division, there is no reason to believe that they could not once again become a big fish in a small pond. All they really have to do is figure out a way to out-Wisconsin Wisconsin, and that would put them in the Big Ten CCG just about every year.

If they begin to play in the Big Ten CCG on a regular basis, then it stands to reason that they are going to win it periodically, even if they have to do it via upset more often than not.

Their path to the top of the conference has a lot less resistance than Michigan's, in my opinion. The Wolverines would have to be better than OSU and PSU, instead of Wisconsin and Iowa.
and in my opinion if a few years the hurdles Nebraska will have will add in a Minnesota team that is actually at least 2 years a head of Nebraska on a rebuild to national attention

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Re: Cowherd's 4 "Big Dogs"
« Reply #24 on: June 25, 2020, 11:53:45 AM »
There are two differences between Cowhurd and ELA:

1.  ELA's name is not widely known, and
2.  ELA doesn't publish obvious tripe to get people incensed and upset so they know his name.

Not many Talking Heads who write this sort of stuff are really very rational about it, but they are good at eliciting a reaction.

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Re: Cowherd's 4 "Big Dogs"
« Reply #25 on: June 25, 2020, 12:07:10 PM »
So, some Talking Head organized programs according to his opinion to gin up discussion and threw in USC to do just that.

Got it.


Shrug. People want to get mad at things for no reason. He provided a thing one might get mad at if they felt over the top about something. People made the choice to get into it. 

The argument isn't particularly unreasonable in a historical context given the sort of broad requirements. And at worst, it probably should be a moment of "ehh, a person I don't care for said a thing, and that is what it is."

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Re: Cowherd's 4 "Big Dogs"
« Reply #26 on: June 25, 2020, 12:08:49 PM »
and in my opinion if a few years the hurdles Nebraska will have will add in a Minnesota team that is actually at least 2 years a head of Nebraska on a rebuild to national attention


That is certainly within the realm of possibility, but which team is more likely to retain their coach? 
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Re: Cowherd's 4 "Big Dogs"
« Reply #27 on: June 25, 2020, 12:14:32 PM »
Why is everyone wigging out about this?  They're obviously historical peak rankings.  If they were released 10 years ago, Clemson wouldn't even be on it.  

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