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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #420 on: November 19, 2021, 10:41:47 PM »
Miami is awesome. If you're rich. If you don't have money- and these college kids sure as shit don't- they aren't going to enjoy it. 
This is true about everywhere.
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« Reply #421 on: November 19, 2021, 10:48:19 PM »
This is true about everywhere.
It's more true the more expensive a place is. 

Miami is now the 2nd most expensive place to live in the US behind only NYC according to a brand new study from Realtyhop. And all the new condo developments, shopping, single family housing, nightlife spots & restaurants are on the more high end scale and pretty much expensive as shit. Rents for apartments have gone up like 26% in Miami in the last 6 months alone.

Your dollars will take you a lot farther in Gainesville or Tallahassee or Ann Arbor or Athens or any college town than it will in a place like Miami. 

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #422 on: November 19, 2021, 10:57:06 PM »
It's more true the more expensive a place is.

the Res might be a decent place if you are rich, but it wouldn't meet my definition of awesome
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #423 on: November 20, 2021, 08:09:57 AM »
My daughter in Columbus does pretty well salarywise, and it's Columbus, where prices are relatively reasonable.  You don't need to make $200 K a year to have a nice life there, but you probably do in Miami, or close to it.

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #424 on: November 20, 2021, 08:47:02 AM »
The Tucker story reminds me of another coach, one who folks here will not think of in that light. 

Darrell Hazell. 

Hazell delivered a coaching job that in a similar timeframe is frankly worlds more impressive than what Tucker has done at MSU. Hazell went 11-2 at Kent State in 2012. You might say, MAC job, whatever. But here's the thing, that's a program that had two winning seasons between 1977 and that year. And he had them a game away from the Orange Bowl in Year 2. 

That's insane, and it didn't mean anything. 

He showed up at Purdue, had maybe the worst tenure of any Purdue coach (a high bar) and was gone. Does this mean I think Mel is going to bomb out? No. But it means I'm hesitant to crown a guy on a very good start with basically one very good win. 

(For fun, the mythology if the Urban Bowling Green run has been modestly overstated, though folks in the coaching world could also see he was a high end rising star)

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #425 on: November 20, 2021, 08:59:25 AM »
It's more true the more expensive a place is.

Miami is now the 2nd most expensive place to live in the US behind only NYC according to a brand new study from Realtyhop. And all the new condo developments, shopping, single family housing, nightlife spots & restaurants are on the more high end scale and pretty much expensive as shit. Rents for apartments have gone up like 26% in Miami in the last 6 months alone.

Your dollars will take you a lot farther in Gainesville or Tallahassee or Ann Arbor or Athens or any college town than it will in a place like Miami.
Dot, you gave me a ray of hope for a second, but that's not exactly what it says. 

It says Miami is the second least affordable housing market to locals. Which is to say the ratio of housing prices to median income is least favorable. 

The rental prices thing is interesting, though I'm not sure what to make of it. It's a year-over-year number, and the pandemic was a damn mess for rental prices. I know the apartment I live in (In a good location in a more understated southern metropolis) is asking for 50% more than I pay for the type of unit I'm in. 

This is not really the point, but the flows of home prices interest me, and that study sent me down a rabbit hole. It's gotta be an interesting change for career coaches whose families are in college towns most of the time 

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #426 on: November 20, 2021, 09:00:47 AM »

(For fun, the mythology if the Urban Bowling Green run has been modestly overstated, though folks in the coaching world could also see he was a high end rising star)
What was is about UM at BGSU that got him noticed that way, other than his WL record?

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #427 on: November 20, 2021, 09:02:59 AM »
With a lacking supply of top coaching candidates, Florida's hesitancy to part with Dan Mullen crystalizes - CBSSports.com
With a lacking supply of top coaching candidates, Florida's hesitancy to part with Dan Mullen crystalizes - CBSSports.com

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #428 on: November 20, 2021, 10:07:39 AM »
What was is about UM at BGSU that got him noticed that way, other than his WL record?
So, he went 17-6. Which is good. He upset a bad Mizzou team, scored a bunch of points. And he did it at a place that had a previous coach who was good, but stayed too long, got old, lost that drive and let things slip. Urban did a good job. 

But it seemed like, as the years went on, you would've thought he led Kent to 11 wins or something. He had two teams that finished third in the standings. Because the league only had two bowl spots, that meant he never got to the postseason. He had a good resume, and it seemed like he was a better coach than that resume, but that history just got puffed and puffed up, in part because he turned out to be very, very good. 

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #429 on: November 20, 2021, 10:16:46 AM »
OK, how was it folks in the coaching world spotted him as a clear up and comer?

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #430 on: November 20, 2021, 10:19:27 AM »
OK, how was it folks in the coaching world spotted him as a clear up and comer?
Soft skills, drive, personality, teaching, etc. These guys work together a lot, and you can see someone has a mind for it. 

The guy got an OK HC job when his biggest job before that was wide receivers coach. 

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #431 on: November 20, 2021, 10:23:52 AM »
Can folks in the coaching world assess potential HCs pretty well before they get a big job?

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« Reply #432 on: November 20, 2021, 10:28:04 AM »
history says, NO
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #433 on: November 20, 2021, 10:31:25 AM »
That's why I wonder how UM was spotted.  Or was it chance?

 

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