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MrNubbz

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #140 on: November 01, 2021, 10:03:25 AM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on November 01, 2021, 10:00:10 AM
Probably fired Patterson because TCU realizes they can't afford him on G6 conference revenues...
Must have been a favorable buy out or just thinking they can do better
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #141 on: November 01, 2021, 10:06:43 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 01, 2021, 07:54:35 AM
 Fire'em all?  The pool of candidates gets stretched.

Then you end up doing a Tennessee or a Texas.
Or they could pull a seamless hire as Ohio State seems to do - Thankfully
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #142 on: November 01, 2021, 10:43:25 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 01, 2021, 07:46:40 AM

I kind of wonder how many work out for the better, overall.  It's been noted for example that Smart at UGA is barely doing better in wins than Richt did, and Smart inherited a pretty loaded team.  The Vols of course have been through a wringer, maybe they have their guy now, maybe not.

If I'm not mistaken Jimbo Fisher entered the year with the same record as Kevin Sumlin, yet he's still regarded as a major upgrade, a big name and an "obvious target" for LSU (which won't happen for a number of reasons).

Quote from: Cincydawg on November 01, 2021, 09:25:35 AM
Is there some FCS coach who looks prominent or successful?  Or further down?  Anyone lighting it up down there?  And I know it may not translate.

Maybe there is a firey young guy somewhere who merits a shot?

Not FCS, but if LSU isn't going to look at Napier, one of these schools in the market probably should.  I think he'd be worth taking a shot with, as much good as it does anybody to project that kind of thing.  I think it's pretty impressive what he's done with the Ragin' Cajuns.  And yeah, like you said....it may not translate.  
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #143 on: November 01, 2021, 10:48:01 AM »
Patterson with LSU athletes seems like a nightmare for other teams, but don't think that will happen.
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #144 on: November 01, 2021, 12:47:04 PM »
I liked what I heard from Mullen… for the most part (247sports.com)

Paul Finebaum torches Dan Mullens recruiting after Georgia loss (247sports.com)

Heat warming a bit on Mullen.  Recruiting is an issue for him, I think, but find him an elite QB and they'd be dangerous.
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« Reply #145 on: November 01, 2021, 06:13:31 PM »
May be an image of 1 person and text that says 'SMITH JR. " IF YOU DON'T RECRUIT, THERE' S NO COACH OUT THERE THAT CAN -COACH RECRUITING. THE BEST COACH TO EVER PLAY THE GAME BETTER BE A GOOD RECRUITER BECAUSE NO COACHING IS GOING TO UT-COACH PLAYERS. -KIRBY SMART ON THE IMPORTANCE OF RECRUITING 247SPRT'
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« Reply #146 on: November 01, 2021, 11:11:31 PM »
UTSA and head football coach Jeff Traylor have agreed to a contract extension through 2031, the school announced in a release on Sunday afternoon. The contract is valued at $28 million and he will be paid an average salary of $2.8 million, as well as potential bonuses and an increase in salary pool for his assistant coaches, according to the release.

Traylor is in just his second season at UTSA but is already showing massive progress. In his first season, the Roadrunners went 7-5 and played in the First Responder Bowl, just one year after going 4-8. This season, UTSA is sitting at 8-0 and is currently ranked No. 16 in the country. Traylor commented on the extension in the release.
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #147 on: November 01, 2021, 11:58:04 PM »
Quote from: MikeDeTiger on November 01, 2021, 10:43:25 AM
If I'm not mistaken Jimbo Fisher entered the year with the same record as Kevin Sumlin, yet he's still regarded as a major upgrade, a big name and an "obvious target" for LSU (which won't happen for a number of reasons).

Not FCS, but if LSU isn't going to look at Napier, one of these schools in the market probably should.  I think he'd be worth taking a shot with, as much good as it does anybody to project that kind of thing.  I think it's pretty impressive what he's done with the Ragin' Cajuns.  And yeah, like you said....it may not translate. 
Sumlin caught lightning in a bottle. He used recruits from Mike Sherman, namely on the offensive line, QB, and WR. He did manage to keep the momentum up through 2015 but some how managed to run off two legit 5* QB in the same season. Remember, Kyler Murray started as an Aggie. First Kyle Allen left, and then Kyler left despite being the only legit QB and guaranteed starter on the team. 

Sumlin really was ok through 2015/2016. He lucked out getting Trevor Knight onboard in 2016 and we played pretty well through the middle f the season. But then things just fell apart in the 2nd half of the season, just like the year before and the year before that. 

Jimbo has built this team from the inside out. He has built a better team with worse talent than we had with Sumlin. His teams have finished strong.  

Sumlin lucked out and got a gig with Arizona, I think he coasted another two years. 


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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #148 on: November 02, 2021, 06:19:55 AM »
If Kirby is about right, and I think he is, you need a recruiting coach before anything else.  Why are Bama and OSU so consistently good to great?

I'm curious about Clemson, maybe they caught fire and that pushed up recruiting for them, but now they are laboring, I don't know if temp or not.  If a team like Baylor has a couple really good years does their recruiting improve as a result, by a lot?
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #149 on: November 02, 2021, 06:42:31 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 02, 2021, 06:19:55 AM
If Kirby is about right, and I think he is, you need a recruiting coach before anything else.  Why are Bama and OSU so consistently good to great?

I'm curious about Clemson, maybe they caught fire and that pushed up recruiting for them, but now they are laboring, I don't know if temp or not.  If a team like Baylor has a couple really good years does their recruiting improve as a result, by a lot?
Clemson always recruited better than you think, and Dabo specializes there. 
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« Reply #150 on: November 02, 2021, 06:44:01 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on November 01, 2021, 11:11:31 PM
UTSA and head football coach Jeff Traylor have agreed to a contract extension through 2031, the school announced in a release on Sunday afternoon. The contract is valued at $28 million and he will be paid an average salary of $2.8 million, as well as potential bonuses and an increase in salary pool for his assistant coaches, according to the release.

Traylor is in just his second season at UTSA but is already showing massive progress. In his first season, the Roadrunners went 7-5 and played in the First Responder Bowl, just one year after going 4-8. This season, UTSA is sitting at 8-0 and is currently ranked No. 16 in the country. Traylor commented on the extension in the release.

2031? Ha

All that matters is the buyout from his side, and if a bigger school wants him, that won’t matter either.
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« Reply #151 on: November 02, 2021, 06:50:01 AM »
Well, in 2014 they were 16th, 15th the year before that, 20th in 2012.  Then they started being top ten routinely.

I believe if you are not top ten you won't be in the CFP in 2-3 years with few exceptions, but if you get there you might see your numbers improve a lot for a time.  Folks complain about how we see the same teams in the CFP each year and we also see the same teams at the top of the 247.

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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #152 on: November 02, 2021, 07:02:43 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 02, 2021, 06:50:01 AM
Well, in 2014 they were 16th, 15th the year before that, 20th in 2012.  Then they started being top ten routinely.

I believe if you are not top ten you won't be in the CFP in 2-3 years with few exceptions, but if you get there you might see your numbers improve a lot for a time.  Folks complain about how we see the same teams in the CFP each year and we also see the same teams at the top of the 247.


True, but also had too 10 classes in 2008 and 2011. 
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Re: Coaching changes
« Reply #153 on: November 02, 2021, 08:38:50 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 02, 2021, 06:19:55 AM
If Kirby is about right, and I think he is, you need a recruiting coach before anything else.  Why are Bama and OSU so consistently good to great?
Ohio State had such a guy named Bill Conley not to be confused with the stats guy.He was hired by Earle Bruce and was kept on board thru John Cooper's tenure and the 1st 2 yrs of Tressel.It was no secret either he was sent in to seal the deal - could sell sand blasters to the Saudis.This is why Johnny C should have been shown the door long before he was in C-Bus.IMO UM is where tOSU was,the outside perspective has to be changed from not finishing out or meeting objectives to at least splitting with rivals.JH has had 2 complete recruiting cycles,his coaches and players have come and gone.

  Lets face it MSU was a trainwreck and Mel Tucker was a late spring time hire and not on anyone's must have list.I'm surprised with such a thin roster anyone is undefeated this late in the season @ MSU.Coaching matters,JH can retire in luxury,I hope they give him an extension.UM could get lucky and find a keeper and make things real intersting
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