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MaximumSam

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Re: Chris Holtmann
« Reply #238 on: February 08, 2024, 10:58:54 AM »
Speaking of replacements - I don't think Chris Mack is doing anything. I thought he got a raw deal at Louisville and good Lord they went into a hole after firing him. But he's not coaching anywhere and he's from Cleveland. Would save on a buyout.
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Re: Chris Holtmann
« Reply #239 on: February 09, 2024, 04:19:35 PM »
Vis-a-vis your "get old, stay old", Ohio State would be old if they still had these guys but they'd still suck because Chris Holtmann would still be their coach:
https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-basketball/2024/02/145436/meechie-johnson-jaedon-ledee-among-former-ohio-state-hoopers-having-career-years-elsewhere?amp
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Re: Chris Holtmann
« Reply #240 on: February 09, 2024, 04:39:01 PM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on February 09, 2024, 04:19:35 PM
Vis-a-vis your "get old, stay old", Ohio State would be old if they still had these guys but they'd still suck because Chris Holtmann would still be their coach:
https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-basketball/2024/02/145436/meechie-johnson-jaedon-ledee-among-former-ohio-state-hoopers-having-career-years-elsewhere?amp
Ledee is in his sixth year. Definitely shows the power of developing - he was basically a nonfactor for four years, a bench rotation player last year, and now one of the best players in the sport.
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Re: Chris Holtmann
« Reply #241 on: February 09, 2024, 04:52:47 PM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on February 09, 2024, 04:39:01 PM
Ledee is in his sixth year. Definitely shows the power of developing effective coaching- he was basically a nonfactor for four years, a bench rotation player last year, and now one of the best players in the sport.
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Re: Chris Holtmann
« Reply #242 on: February 09, 2024, 04:56:57 PM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on February 09, 2024, 04:52:47 PM
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Ehh, I always thought it was pretty amazing that Holtmann turned a 6'6 power forward into an NBA player with E.J. Liddell. It's not like guys haven't developed. But they haven't developed into great defensive players, which is the main issue.
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Re: Chris Holtmann
« Reply #243 on: February 09, 2024, 07:08:05 PM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on February 09, 2024, 04:19:35 PM
Vis-a-vis your "get old, stay old", Ohio State would be old if they still had these guys but they'd still suck because Chris Holtmann would still be their coach:
https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-basketball/2024/02/145436/meechie-johnson-jaedon-ledee-among-former-ohio-state-hoopers-having-career-years-elsewhere?amp
Those kids both seem like the sorts who had some maturing to do in their games.

they probably would have been near about as good as they are now as they stayed. Of course you would’ve had to put up with your development years and would have deeply hated that.
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Re: Chris Holtmann
« Reply #244 on: February 14, 2024, 12:02:48 PM »
Sounds like today might be the day!

https://www.elevenwarriors.com/forum/ohio-state-basketball/2024/02/145529/per-this-report-holtmann-will-be-fired-today

Years too late and the timing is odd but this has needed to be done for years.
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Re: Chris Holtmann
« Reply #245 on: February 14, 2024, 12:05:00 PM »
When I said "generationaly bad" and @MaximumSam questioned it, this is what I meant:
https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-basketball/2024/02/145525/ohio-state-loses-school-record-tying-16th-consecutive-road-game-falls-62-54-at-no-20-wisconsin

The current 16-game road losing streak is the worst in the 124 year history of the program. 
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Re: Chris Holtmann
« Reply #246 on: February 14, 2024, 12:11:41 PM »
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Re: Chris Holtmann
« Reply #247 on: February 14, 2024, 12:19:37 PM »
Dispatch reported that Holtmann has been fired but it is behind a paywall.

Here it is from Cleveland paper:
https://www.cleveland.com/osu/2024/02/chris-holtmann-fired-as-ohio-states-basketball-coach.html
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Re: Chris Holtmann
« Reply #248 on: February 14, 2024, 12:21:52 PM »
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Re: Chris Holtmann
« Reply #249 on: February 14, 2024, 01:38:39 PM »
He’s dead, Jim
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Re: Chris Holtmann
« Reply #250 on: February 14, 2024, 05:58:19 PM »
So as we (finally) close the book on the Holtmann era, he went:

  • 137-86 overall, 0.614
  • 67-65 in the B1G, 0.508
However, his first year (with Matta's guys) was very good, since then he is:
  • 112-77 overall, 0.593
  • 52-62 in the B2G, 0.456
Clearly unacceptable.  

I have nothing against Chris Holtmann personally, AFAIK he is a great guy and didn't get us in any hot water with the NCAA.  He just wasn't cut out to coach at this level.  That was apparent two years ago, obvious after the 2022/23 season and unavoidably obvious after this year's debacle.  

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Re: Chris Holtmann
« Reply #251 on: February 14, 2024, 06:27:22 PM »
Like cooper the axe came years after it should have.Don't follow cagers like I use to but yeah - 12 million dollar by out :(
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