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medinabuckeye1

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Re: Chris Holtmann
« Reply #210 on: February 04, 2024, 10:56:26 AM »
When you are in a hole, the first step is to stop digging. 

Our shovel is named Chris Holtmann. 

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Re: Chris Holtmann
« Reply #211 on: February 04, 2024, 07:04:57 PM »
11 games into B1G play last year, 3-8. 11 games into B1G play this year, 3-8.

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  • Luck: #361 last year, #267 this year

"Get old, stay old" only works if you have a coach capable of developing your players. We don't so our players are regressing. 

Last season Ohio State's team was historically bad, they are actually worse this year and it isn't even close. 

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Re: Chris Holtmann
« Reply #212 on: February 04, 2024, 07:44:01 PM »

https://www.reddit.com/r/HoosiersBasketball/comments/1ah37yx/holtmann_may_get_fired_tonight/

I highly doubt the credibility of this but who knows, maybe Gene Smith will suddenly remember that he has a job he is supposed to be doing for a few more months.

As bad as Holtmann is, most of those Hoosier posters are still lamenting that they hired Archie Miller instead of Chris Holtmann. :o
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Re: Chris Holtmann
« Reply #213 on: February 04, 2024, 07:47:49 PM »
As bad as Holtmann is, most of those Hoosier posters are still lamenting that they hired Archie Miller instead of Chris Holtmann. :o
I remember when all the Buckeye fans were mad we didn't get Archie

Brutus Buckeye

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Re: Chris Holtmann
« Reply #214 on: February 04, 2024, 07:56:09 PM »


What would have happened in a parallel universe where Indiana got the Butler HC, and OSU got the one from Dayton? 

Pretty much the same thing? Or something else entirely? 
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Re: Chris Holtmann
« Reply #215 on: February 04, 2024, 08:10:02 PM »

What would have happened in a parallel universe where Indiana got the Butler HC, and OSU got the one from Dayton?

Pretty much the same thing? Or something else entirely?
Hard to say. Archie has re-emerged at Rhode Island. His team sucks, but he has a player names Always Wright. Always has a brother named All Wright. We should pursue both of these guys.

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Re: Chris Holtmann
« Reply #216 on: February 05, 2024, 02:52:02 PM »
I will be curious how this plays out.  I think the change in ADs is the one thing in Holman's favor.  AD's like their own hired and Gene Smith might be reluctant to make a major hire right before a switch.

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Re: Chris Holtmann
« Reply #217 on: February 05, 2024, 05:44:36 PM »
When you are in a hole, the first step is to stop digging.

Our shovel is named Chris Holtmann.
Turn those standings upside down and they almost looks like semi-realistic football standings (with some surprises, but still).

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Re: Chris Holtmann
« Reply #218 on: February 05, 2024, 07:42:53 PM »
He and Gene might be buddies. For all we know, he'll extend him again with a massive buyout. 
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Re: Chris Holtmann
« Reply #219 on: February 05, 2024, 08:56:11 PM »
Turn those standings upside down and they almost looks like semi-realistic football standings (with some surprises, but still).
Fire Fickell!

medinabuckeye1

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Re: Chris Holtmann
« Reply #220 on: February 06, 2024, 11:42:21 AM »
Waiting to see how the season plays out? What more needs to be seen?

You start now before anyone else starts.

Lamont Paris just took down Tennessee. His agent's phone will be ringing.

Jobs will likely be opening up in the Big Ten alone.

Michigan, Indiana, Washington, UCLA and USC are not performing to expectations either.
Speaking of Lamont Paris, one of his stars is a guy named Meechie Johnson. If that name sounds familiar to you it is because he was an Ohio State recruit who basically sucked and got no PT under Chris Holtmann. Now that he has a quality coach he is doing very well. He is a Junior so he cold come to Columbus with his coach next year and he could potentially be a good recruiter of the current team since he knows them from his time in Columbus. 

Coaching matters.

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Re: Chris Holtmann
« Reply #221 on: February 06, 2024, 02:07:01 PM »
Speaking of Lamont Paris, one of his stars is a guy named Meechie Johnson. If that name sounds familiar to you it is because he was an Ohio State recruit who basically sucked and got no PT under Chris Holtmann. Now that he has a quality coach he is doing very well. He is a Junior so he cold come to Columbus with his coach next year and he could potentially be a good recruiter of the current team since he knows them from his time in Columbus.

Coaching matters.
I have to admit, this makes me chuckle a bit for a few reasons. 

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Re: Chris Holtmann
« Reply #222 on: February 06, 2024, 09:30:18 PM »
@MaximumSam are you surprised?

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Re: Chris Holtmann
« Reply #223 on: February 06, 2024, 09:55:42 PM »
@MaximumSam are you surprised?
This must be that history you talk about

 

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